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transience | Posted 7/29/2007 1:27:12 PM | message detail | #301

SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/29/2007 2:09:20 PM | message detail | #302

Wow, nice.
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transience | Posted 7/29/2007 2:29:51 PM | message detail | #303

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zjmPA_x1h_A may very well be the most depressing video I've ever seen
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/29/2007 10:21:00 PM | message detail | #304

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Why would you ever link to that video... ?

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;_;
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transience | Posted 7/30/2007 12:55:46 AM | message detail | #305

hey cool, this guy made his own top 24 on youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3M0Bfyy5qJM

wtf paul raines at 21

I'm only up to 17 so far but so far it's pretty similar to mine, just in a drastically different order
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/30/2007 10:30:41 PM | message detail | #306

Watching, might not have time to finish tonight.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/30/2007 11:45:35 PM | message detail | #307

Wow, that was ridiculously draining. Like the top 4 were all deaths.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 3:14:57 AM | message detail | #308

I'm up to #9.. Jack vs. the Drazens is a lot better when you throw Nina's phone call into it. probably should have been higher.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 9:38:00 AM | message detail | #309

How many awesome events would you include in the Season 1 Finale? I count 3; this guy counts 4.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 11:59:02 AM | message detail | #310

I only had three. he's got the Nina/Jack clash at the end that I didn't have.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 12:12:01 PM | message detail | #311

Oh, yeah. What I mean is... I'd group the phone call/Jack storming the Drazens as one scene. I'd also count shootout with Nina/discovering Teri's body as one scene.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 12:16:05 PM | message detail | #312

Crono801 | Posted 7/31/2007 12:26:28 PM | message detail | #313

1) Paul Raines's Death
2) Kim's phone call
3) Jack vs. The Drazens
4) PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT
5) Jack confronts Heller

I've wanted to do a Top 24 for a while now...

Also, I hope we get some sort of Novick/Lennox interaction before the series is over.
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Crono801 | Posted 7/31/2007 12:27:49 PM | message detail | #314

Oh, and I bawled after Jack/Heller, but that was mostly because my girlfriend and I had just broken up and it made me realize just how much I had lost.
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Crono801 | Posted 7/31/2007 12:29:38 PM | message detail | #315

Oh, someone needs to do another "Death" video with Seasons 1-6.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 12:38:13 PM | message detail | #316

I stand by Novick as s8 president! best president ever.
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plasmabeam | Posted 7/31/2007 12:38:51 PM | message detail | #317

A piece of me dies every time I watch Jack shoot Curtis.

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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 1:04:48 PM | message detail | #318

oh. I agree on the former, but not on the latter. those are two separate scenes with totally different reactions. it's kinda like how I separate the phone call with Kim on the plane and George Mason as different scenes.

Fair enough; as you'd imagine, I group both of those together... I think they're close enough emotionally, thematically, and chronologically to work. Like, Jack running into CTU after the shootout is totally a continuation of that ban

Also: Mike's okay, but I'd never rank him as a top character of mine, and I don't want him back in the White House again. Sadly, I could envision him somehow returning again as Chief of Staff.

Wayne, on theo ther hand... He's been a kickass President. He totally outclasses David in Season 3 on rewatch, and his Season 6 performance is also incredible. I agree with him 110% on his line in 6x17 to Lennox... 'I'm not David, Tom, and I never will be. But I am learning that who I am is not so bad.'
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 1:13:19 PM | message detail | #319

I loved s6 Wayne.. him coming out of the coma to his collapse was absolutely amazing. I couldn't take my eyes off him. it was like he was going to die at any second but he just wouldn't give up.

just finished that list... don't agree with it. Tony's death is just not good, I didn't think Chappelle could ever be that high with anyone and there's no PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT. tsk!
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 1:45:49 PM | message detail | #320

Tony's death is just not good

It wasn't good in most senses, but it was powerful. And the dialogue that came before it was priceless, just classic Tony in his last moments. Also, that entire episode's oppression made it a really effective climax in a suffocating environment.

I didn't think Chappelle could ever be that high with anyone

Really? I always thought that that was one of the single most incredible moments. Like, we all hated Chappelle in Seasons 1 and 2 but here's Jack Bauer, the dark knight, killing an innocent man for no good reason whatsoever. It was just totally random, Jack having to bend over backward to accomodate a terrorist's childish whim...

there's no PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT.

I think that the point where Palmer actually gets Sherry the **** out of his life (or so you think) is better than PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT. Though the two moments are interlinked - so I don't really separate them much in my mind. Maybe I'm alone on that.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 1:51:30 PM | message detail | #321

Really? I always thought that that was one of the single most incredible moments. Like, we all hated Chappelle in Seasons 1 and 2 but here's Jack Bauer, the dark knight, killing an innocent man for no good reason whatsoever. It was just totally random, Jack having to bend over backward to accomodate a terrorist's childish whim...

I thought the random part was Chappelle's behaviour and how it flips on a dime for one episode. it's like they tried to reverse three seasons of douche in one episode.. and they did a good job of it. but still, I could never rate it up there with other characters that are both more likable and more sympathetic. Edgar outclasses him in every way.

I think that the point where Palmer actually gets Sherry the **** out of his life (or so you think) is better than PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT.

I respectfully disagree!
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 2:02:47 PM | message detail | #322

For Chappelle... I dunno, how many times have you watched Season 3? He's basically a comic relief character at that point (or so it seems, re-watching it), whereas he's genuinely a pain in the ass in Seasons 1 and 2.

It was sweet, sweet vengeance when Tony kicked him out of his office in Season 2.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 2:05:19 PM | message detail | #323

just twice. he starts to be a little more helpful instead of an obstacle in season 3, but I still wouldn't call him a positive contribution. when it comes to decision making, he's still going to be the guy that's standing in your way.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 2:15:30 PM | message detail | #324

That's true. He wasn't exactly a positive contribution to the terrorist effort, but he did have some classic lines, notably 'Chloe is a pain in the ass.' Also provided great fodder for Tony to practise his wit on. >>

That said I personally don't think that anything he ever did on-screen detracted from the insanity and impact of his death, but I s'pose we can agree to disagree"
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 2:16:14 PM | message detail | #325

that was supposed to be a '!' not a '"'. For some reason I'm using a British keyboard and I missed, normally it would've come out '@.' >>
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The Beginning | Posted 7/31/2007 2:30:30 PM | message detail | #326

Ok, just ran through the list. No way is Paul Raines number one. He just wasn't important enough to garner the single greatest 24 moment of all time. Great scene though, but most of s4 we spent hating him, until he turned monster face for a few episodes. Kudos to having PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT! so high. I always thought I was only whenever I say that was one of if not the greatest scene. When Palmer turns on the tv he gives what I consider to be the best "dammit!" in TV history. It's just one of those words that is so hard to pull off, and he did it times 500. If that child dies is also a great line. Ahem...

My only REAL gripe, as I take personally offense to this not being on the list, is how can you not put Palmer defending himself in S2 in front of the members of the cabinet and whatever those other people's titles were. Greatest speech ever... (from memory, may be wrong on a few words) "Take a good look ... am I breaking down in a nervous sweat? am I babbling for a loss of words? IS MY VOICE SHAKING!?" He then goes on a 25th amendment right speech about why the VP is a complete asswipe. Soo good. Or you can atleast put up "If this is wear it's gonna start, this is where it's gonna stop!" And then when he found out about the boy dying. "The boy had a name, find out." Classic Palmer. So ruthless yet so compassionate. Bahhh I love it!

I would have put Assad/Jack teaming up with the car accident but I can see not having it aswell. That's just me. "SCREW YOU! SCREW YOU!"
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 2:34:49 PM | message detail | #327

I never hated Paul Raines. he's kind of a sissy (for lack of a better banned word) for the first few episodes, but once he gets tortured and agrees to team up with Jack, I really really like him. his death scene is very, *very* powerful, and that's why I put it at #1.

I love David Palmer. he's awesome. I could make a list with nothing but Palmer moments, because every time he's involved in a scene, good things happen. I don't think his speeches in season 2 are anything above his normal work, though. Palmer really needs to go over the edge (PROTECTING ME FROM WHAT) in order for me to really call it a great scene. otherwise, I'd be packing the list with Palmer decisions.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 2:39:19 PM | message detail | #328

You've threaded the eye of the needle.
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 2:41:36 PM | message detail | #329

end of s4 is great. I'm not such a fan of the actual 'death' (is he gonna be ok??? he really looks dead!!), but the call with Palmer and The Walk are all great.
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Crono801 | Posted 7/31/2007 3:03:19 PM | message detail | #330

Paul Raines's death isn't significant for it being Paul's death scene; it's significant for what it means for Jack and his relationship with Audrey.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 3:05:09 PM | message detail | #331

It's significant because it features Jack Bauer waving a gun and yelling very, very loudly. >___>
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 3:08:55 PM | message detail | #332

Paul Raines's death isn't significant for it being Paul's death scene; it's significant for what it means for Jack and his relationship with Audrey.

yup, this is true of the entire season. the first scene you see is Jack and Audrey together, happy as hell. then you see Jack torture Paul, Paul save Jack's life, Jack kill Paul and then Jack dead. the entire day is about how Jack can't function in a relationship when he has to save the world or whatever.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 3:14:56 PM | message detail | #333

The Jack-Audrey romance is almost fairy talish in how it lasts 'til Season 5. >>
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transience | Posted 7/31/2007 3:16:37 PM | message detail | #334

yeah, Audrey forgiving Jack for Paul is like "w-w-w-w-what?". I don't mind it though because I like Jack and Audrey together. I like those seasons more than I like the Teri/Nina Trilogy or whatever.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 3:18:21 PM | message detail | #335

Makes sense that Audrey forgave Jack for Paul, I think. Took her 18 months either way.

Also, Jack-Kate forever. Too bad they cut her in Season 3 and never brought her back.
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plasmabeam | Posted 7/31/2007 3:32:03 PM | message detail | #336

Yes, Kate > Audrey.

Kate actually did interesting things like enter the mosque. Audrey just stands around as the pampered daughter of Heller. Plus I prefer Kate's personality.

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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 3:40:15 PM | message detail | #337

Audrey kinda came into her own in Season 5, but I preferred Kate's laid-back, realisation that Jack was truly her hero versus Audrey's dare-I-say-it, deranged love for Jack.
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Naye745 | Posted 7/31/2007 3:41:54 PM | message detail | #338

Despite my love for S2, I never really ever liked Kate.
I didn't like Audrey at first, but I thought she was good for most of S5
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 3:48:12 PM | message detail | #339

As a character, Kate wasn't all that special. As Jack's counterpart though, she was easily the best.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 4:15:44 PM | message detail | #340

Kate was never really 'Jack's counterpart', I didn't think. there wasn't even much of a relationship there at all.

I never liked Kate. Jack has poor taste in women in general, but Audrey's been my favourite of the bunch.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 4:20:00 PM | message detail | #341

Fair enough.
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WackerJr | Posted 7/31/2007 6:10:01 PM | message detail | #342

I'm pretty surprised nobody's mentioned one particular moment in the Series 3 finale.

Yes we had seen plenty of blood and sickness with the virus in the hotel, but not since the implied brutality since Series 2's "get me a hacksaw!" had 24 really been brutal in what it had shown imo. Suddenly you've got Jack & Chase trying to locate the last of the virus and they've finally come to the school.

Chase has a confrontation with the terrorist and when he appeared to get pwned by the guy, he suddenly pulls of one huge act of heroicy/ stupidity... he attaches the container with the virus in, to his own arm. Jack comes in and saves him, but then can't remove the container from Chase's wrist. When you see them both look up and see the axe you're there thinking "he's not is he? He's not.... surely... He is, OMG, he really ****ing is!"

Then *swish* and you can't help but jump at what's just happened as the container is disattached from Chase... as well as his limb! Ouch, darn that's smarts!

Naye745 | Posted 7/31/2007 6:11:12 PM | message detail | #343

augh i might pick up a 24 season set for my birthday or something but i really want to see both S3 AND S4

decisions :(
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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 6:13:10 PM | message detail | #344

I don't get as into the axe / Jack crying stuff at the end of s3 as others do. I can pull up videos of the scene(s) if you want.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 6:14:15 PM | message detail | #345

my suggestion is s4! unless you've watched 1 and 2 recently because 3 is like the end of the first 'trilogy'

I'm pretty sure s7 is gonna go in a different direction as the second 'trilogy' is over
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Naye745 | Posted 7/31/2007 6:14:28 PM | message detail | #346

jack crying then responding "yeah, im coming" was an awesome ending, style-wise, as far as not leaving off on an OH **** moment, but just saying 'damn, that was a crappy day'

it and S6's endings only grow on me the more i see them.
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Naye745 | Posted 7/31/2007 6:15:58 PM | message detail | #347

my suggestion is s4! unless you've watched 1 and 2 recently because 3 is like the end of the first 'trilogy'

well i've seen them all before but here's why i'm split

i feel like i forgot SO MUCH about S3, that it feels so long ago, and i'm the most keen to re-watch it
but at the same time i remember liking S4 a whole lot, even calling it my favorite season after it had ended
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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 6:16:48 PM | message detail | #348

yeah, that's the reason I like it too.. I like some closure. I'm cool with a cliffhanger but it needs to be the exception, not the norm.

I just think it's kind of out of character for Jack.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 6:19:28 PM | message detail | #349

well i've seen them all before but here's why i'm split

i feel like i forgot SO MUCH about S3, that it feels so long ago, and i'm the most keen to re-watch it
but at the same time i remember liking S4 a whole lot, even calling it my favorite season after it had ended

s3 is probably the most forgettable season. the actual moments from the season don't stand out, but it's one solid season. the downside to the season is that s3 Palmer is kind of like s2 Kim, just a pointless bunch of crap to keep him involved as a main character. it isn't as annoying with Palmer though because he's actually an awesome character.

s4 starts off kinda crappy but is really intense as has an *awesome* last eight hours.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 7/31/2007 6:26:33 PM | message detail | #350

I'm rewatching Season 3 because the first time I watched it, I watched it all in one go and couldn't remember anything after Chappelle's execution...

Meanwhile, I know Season 4 like the back of my hand. I've seen certain episodes over and ****ing over. Habib Marwan is unforgettable. WHAT IS HAPPENING AT EIGHT O'CLOCK is unforgettable. Jack's rescue of Audrey and James Heller is unforgettable.

Behrooz is forgettable, but once you watch it a second time you appreciate how awesome he is. >>
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