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transience (tc) | Posted 5/24/2010 12:28:51 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #051
there's a lot of mediocre to get through before getting to Suvarov - I always liked him and thought he was an effective president, at least in the capacity that we've been allowed to see him in.

that said, I'm probably done for now. gonna take a nap, then hang out with some people, then watch the finale. I can't touch this topic until I've digested the end of 24 - too much spoiler fear!
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LOLContests | Posted 5/24/2010 12:38:01 PM | message detail | filter | #052
Martha Logan rating low :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

I dread the impending ranking of Sherry Palmer.

Julia Taylor was a great character though, IMO. She perfectly represented political greed and self-interest, and whine her actions finally caught up with her she had to go whining back to her mother instead of taking the fall herself.
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The Beginning | Posted 5/24/2010 12:45:18 PM | message detail | filter | #053
Martha didn't deserve that at all. Jean Smart was fantastic in that role.

I also liked Olivia Taylor personally.

I mean Rick is still out there and I'm hoping that Lonnie McRae was deemed not relevant enough for this list.
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Giggsalot | Posted 5/24/2010 1:15:34 PM | message detail | filter | #054
make sure someone saves this list

i am going to watch this show at some point and this sounds like a cool thing to read once i have
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ZFS | Posted 5/24/2010 1:54:18 PM | message detail | filter | #055
Carrie Turner at the bottom is right. 24 has some good characters, but when it has bad ones maaan are they bad.

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Delseban | Posted 5/24/2010 2:33:48 PM | message detail | filter | #056
Olivia Taylor is my favorite main character. <3 (Well, I don't know if she was ever considered a main, but you get the point)

She ranked #5 on my last top 100 TV characters list!
MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/24/2010 2:42:59 PM | message detail | filter | #057
Martha and Olivia too low. They were both great characters in being annoying.
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Naye745 | Posted 5/24/2010 2:53:15 PM | message detail | filter | #058
i agree with that last sentiment, both were good characters in their massive amounts of flaws

not "upper tier" good, but certainly above the bland and bad ones
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Janus5000 | Posted 5/24/2010 3:03:08 PM | message detail | filter | #059
Tag for when I finish the series.

(This might be a while as I only just started season 3 but whatevs)
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wallmasterz | Posted 5/24/2010 3:19:40 PM | message detail | filter | #060
Martha Logan too low. Also from your commentary I can tell you don't like Sherry. :-\

Btw, I didn't realize Carrie Turner was a notable character. Should've been replaced with the cougar tbqh
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/24/2010 3:21:58 PM | message detail | filter | #061
oh right

why is maya driscoll not here yet

or sarah gavin
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The Beginning | Posted 5/24/2010 4:08:33 PM | message detail | filter | #062
^valid questions
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My Immortal | Posted 5/24/2010 4:33:39 PM | message detail | filter | #063
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/24/2010 4:40:50 PM | message detail | filter | #064
what?!
How can you hate Ahmed?

I mean ACH-med?
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/24/2010 6:10:41 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #065
why is maya driscoll not here yet

or sarah gavin


neither on the list!

I'm surprised at the amount of Martha love. I can at least understand it more than friggin' Marilyn Bauer though
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SemiFinal vs Belarus | Posted 5/24/2010 6:19:30 PM | message detail | filter | #066
Should've been replaced with the cougar tbqh

cougar is top twenty material
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/25/2010 3:27:37 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #067
112. Alberta Green

Season(s): 1
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Alberta_Green

The original "by the book" antagonistic character from DISTRICT, aka the place where they do nothing but file reports and make sure to follow protocol. I'm convinced DISTRICT is run by Vogons.

Alberta comes in to take over for the recently departed Richard Walsh and the recent arrested Jack Bauer and immediately starts being antagonistic towards everyone. She berates Nina regarding Jack and is completely uncooperative, forcing Nina and Tony to work behind her back.

There's two things that keep Alberta from being a bottom-of-the-barrel character -- one, she's tough but ultimately fair as opposed to just being antagonistic for no good reason, and two, she was the first of her kind. Ryan Chappelle, Erin Driscoll, Lynn McGill -- all these characters followed Alberta and so she doesn't feel like a retread. I actually find her unmemorable, often forgetting that she exists until her name is mentioned in season 1 when all the bad memories come back.

also the 24 wiki just alerted me that she has an ex-husband named Weldon Dexter Graham IV -- who knew

111. Evelyn Martin
Season(s): 5
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Evelyn_Martin

Martha Logan's aide and the person who exposes Charles Logan's involvement in season 5's conspiracy.As an aide, she's pretty forgettable - she's friendly with the first lady and covers for her, but beyond that she doesn't seem to be anyone of note.

Later in the day, she gets dragged back into things when she confesses to Wayne Palmer that she knows who is behind the day's attacks. Jack and Wayne ambush Christopher Henderson's men and get her daughter back, she reveals that it's Logan and hands off a recording, she gets caught by Henderson later and is presumably killed along with her daughter.

My thing with Evelyn Martin is that she never should have been the person to expose Charles Logan. Evelyn Martin is such a tertiary character - she never seemed important at all, so the idea of her having this pristine recording of Charles Logan and Christopher Henderson is just ridiculous. She probably shouldn't even be on this list, but the character to expose Charles Logan is a pretty significant one. Her two episode run wasn't enough and I'm always glad when Henderson shows up and kills her. She's not really bad in any way, just completely irrelevant.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/25/2010 3:34:02 AM | message detail | filter | #068
the implication that henderson kills evelyn's kid is really disturbing. an overlooked point but a serious 'you bastard' moment for henderson.

alberta green has a cute smile. i'm surprised erin driscoll hasn't made it yet, but that's cool because i never thought she was bottom-tier.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/25/2010 4:04:17 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #070
110. Megan Matheson

Season(s): 2
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Megan_Matheson

She's a cute kid and you feel bad for her. Her dad goes into random fits of rage and beats her. One of the more cringe-worthy moments in 24 history is when she gets thrown down to the ground by Gary and slams her head.

She gets obnoxious soon after, though, and she's part of the whole Kim Bauer plot arc in season 2 which is just a disaster. I would have gladly sacrificed her life if we could have gotten the Kim Bauer stuff over with sooner.

109. Paula Schaeffer
Season(s): 2
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Paula_Schaeffer

A dorky OCD kid who wants to do everything right at a job that she always wanted. She gets frightened when she hears about the nuke and wants to leave, Tony talks her into staying, CTU gets attacked an episode or two later, George sacrifices her life so they can transfer their database off to NSA and that's the end of her.

The more important thing for me was always why the hell is Darlene from Roseanne in my 24? At the time, 24 wasn't getting well-known actors besides Kiefer Sutherland, so Darlene being this computer nerd always seemed weird. I bet most people didn't even know her name and just called her Darlene - I know I did the first time I saw 24. This character always struck me as being a cameo and as such, it never felt authentic to me. This was just a bad choice of actresses.
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SSBM_Guy | Posted 5/25/2010 4:08:45 AM | message detail | filter | #071
how did it take me this long to find this list

tagging so hard
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FFDragon | Posted 5/25/2010 4:09:50 AM | message detail | filter | #072
I never watched Roseanne so I didn't have that problem.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/25/2010 7:01:29 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #073
108. Janis Gold
Season(s): 7
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Janis_Gold

Here's another weird one: Janeane Garoflo playing an FBI analyst, and not even a particularly cool one. Janis is basically Chloe-lite and butts heads with Chloe on several occasions. Janis's character is basically sacrificed in order to let other people shine: Chloe shows her up all the time, she's constantly going against the Jack Bauer methods of coercion to the detriment of everyone involved, she's nagging Sean all the time regarding protocols, etc. Janis is a good character to have around, but not the most likable one.

107. Anne Packard
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Anne_Packard

David Palmer's doctor and lover; I always found this really hard to swallow, probably because she's white and not that interesting. I would expect Palmer to get a bangin' hot chick seeing as how he's the damn president, but instead it's this boring old doctor.

Anne's saga involved her ex-husband planning to release documents incriminating himself and Anne. Ted attempted to blackmail her and David Palmer, Anne insisted otherwise and he shot himself. Afterwards, she decided that a relationship with David was not going to work out due to the fallout from his suicide and she broke it off.

I hold this entire plot arc against Anne. She's a competent character and would probably be a good fit in less dire circumstances, but you don't get regular situations in 24. All the scandal stuff swirling around David Palmer in season 3 is kind of a bummer -- not as bad as Kim in season 2, but it's the same kind of nonsense to keep a main character relevant. That's why season 1 is by far the best of the original trilogy - Palmer, Bauer and Kim are all relevant and the plot is tight. That's not true of seasons 2 and 3.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/25/2010 7:51:35 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #074
106. Alan Wilson
Season(s): 7
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Wilson

Alan Wilson might be the most maddening person in 24 history and you can probably make a good argument as to why he should be in last place. By my count:

- He's probably the most powerful villain shown in the history of the series, yet has no charisma and next to no screen time. he's like Max from season 2 (the guy who ordered the hit on Palmer at the end) only he had a lot more buildup.
- He replaced a great villain in Jonas Hodges, but didn't even do anything villainous. The closest thing was sitting there all secretively on a conference call and getting out of a car dramatically.
- The worst part of it? He has literally zero resolution. Renee Walker nearly beat him to death off-screen, but nothing came out about him. No one talks about him. Here you have the ultimate last boss in 24 history and he does nothing, says nothing and has no story.

And yet, he's not actually a bad character. His scene with Tony is great (though granted, that's all on Tony and none on him). He's just really frustrating. I feel like there is a story as to why this happened - maybe a season 9 plotline they had planned on writing that got canceled, or something that writers butted their heads on, or something. What an unfulfilling character.

105. Rick Allen
Season(s): 1
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Rick_Allen

This guy is a loser. He's not exactly bright. He's got no spine. He needs Kim Bauer to help him come to his senses. He's also sorta dating Kim Bauer. This guy is hopeless.

He's involved in one of the best plotlines in 24 history, though, the rescue of Teri and Kim. He plays a critical role in helping them escape. I give him bonus points based on that, moving him from awful to just mediocre.
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FFDragon | Posted 5/25/2010 7:57:18 AM | message detail | filter | #075
Yeah at least with Max you got a satisfying conclusion in Jack Bauer shooting him in the face. Or chest. One or the other, he got JACK BAUER'D is the point. Alan Wilson had none of that and was just augh at the end.
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Naye745 | Posted 5/25/2010 1:00:23 PM | message detail | filter | #076
That's why season 1 is by far the best of the original trilogy - Palmer, Bauer and Kim are all relevant and the plot is tight. That's not true of seasons 2 and 3.
hard to argue with this one, season 1 is the best-written of all of the 8 seasons

and i always liked janis, i just wish they actually got somewhere with her character
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VincentLauw | Posted 5/25/2010 1:02:48 PM | message detail | filter | #077
The only thing I disagree with is Martha's placement, so far you are right on all the rest. I didn't realize until just now how many useless characters there actually were
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The Beginning | Posted 5/25/2010 1:08:40 PM | message detail | filter | #078
He's involved in one of the best plotlines in 24 history, though, the rescue of Teri and Kim. He plays a critical role in helping them escape. I give him bonus points based on that, moving him from awful to just mediocre.

This is true, but the drug deal takes all points earned away from him.

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The Real Truth | Posted 5/25/2010 1:13:36 PM | message detail | filter | #079
Dana Walsh too high.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/25/2010 1:19:27 PM | message detail | filter | #080
All the scandal stuff swirling around David Palmer in season 3 is kind of a bummer -- not as bad as Kim in season 2

worse. kim was always a bit of an annoying ***** so it was great to see her not causing jack trouble. palmer is the second-greatest character of the first three seasons, and to see him involved in such garbage was heartbreaking.

agreed that janis was never a bad character and got overhated - it's just too bad they never found anything to do with her. i think chloe could've been phased out in favor of janis in s8 and it would've made more sense. oh well.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/25/2010 1:55:19 PM | message detail | filter | #081
oy, what happened here

also WTF at not having gary matheson yet.
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Naye745 | Posted 5/25/2010 3:21:11 PM | message detail | filter | #082
imo, dana walsh proved she could have been excellent in the episode where she died

if we didnt spend the first half of the season following her around in that awful plotline, i think she could have been great. totally wasted potential there.
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transcience | Posted 5/25/2010 5:01:08 PM | message detail | filter | #083
Palmer carries the season 3 nonsense because he's just that good of a character. it might suboptimal, but it's still miles better than the best Kim Bauer plotline.

Dana Walsh is a difficult rank. I'll enjoy rambling about her. I definitely don't think she belongs this low.
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The Beginning | Posted 5/25/2010 5:07:03 PM | message detail | filter | #084
Palmer season 3 storyline was mediocre until ol' Stephen came along. Then it became godly.

I'm not saying this because the sky is falling.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/25/2010 5:10:31 PM | message detail | filter | #085
palmer's storyline in s3 brings palmer down personally, which is why it hurts so much IMO

saunders/palmer action was good but then david asks for sherry back and sherry goes and gets herself in a mess and it's all aughhh

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/25/2010 5:13:31 PM | message detail | filter | #086
Only times Dana wasnt awful was when Jack was around.

Every other moment was AUGH or facepalmable.
also least sensible twist ever.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 7:08:50 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #087
103. Ivan Erwich

Season(s): 5
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Ivan_Erwich

A competent villain - willing to kill people, doesn't compromise - but somebody that lacks any kind of unique characteristic. We didn't get a big backstory with Erwich and he was killed suddenly when Vladimir Bierko showed up. This is a guy that no one really likes or dislikes - he's just there. I always thought Anton Beresch, the guy who held up the airport in the beginning of season 5, was a lot more unique and interesting even though he didn't really have a big role in anything.

102. Richard Walsh

Season(s): 1
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Walsh

The original director of CTU. Richard Walsh was killed early on in season 1 for finding out about the key card. He calls Jack to come save him and dies in the extraction process.

This guy has always confounded me. Jack Bauer at the beginning of season 1 has all the respect in the world for him and credits him for being who he is, but he seems so vanilla and blase. There's nothing interesting about him at all. The idea of Richard Walsh telling Jack Bauer what to do for a long period of time seems crazy. Season 1 Jack was still human so I'm just going to blame it on that - if this were season 3 or 4, we would never have seen him stand for following orders from a guy like Walsh. Walsh seems like a good guy and probably runs a decent office, but he's not very dynamic.

101. Gary Matheson
Season(s): 2
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Gary_Matheson

A businessman turned lunatic who beats his daughter and kills his wife for seemingly no reason. The plotline regarding him and Kim isn't great, but he also makes season 2 Kim Bauer suffer so I kinda like him. I think Gary is good as a dude who's stalking Kim and I found that plotline to be better than some of the later ones she goes through - the car accident, the cougar, that dude Lonnie in the cabin, the holdup at the gas station. If anyone else besides Kim was dealing with Gary Matheson, he would have died in 10 minutes. Good thing he picked on Kim.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 7:27:38 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #088
100. Kayla Hassan
Season(s): 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Kayla_Hassan

It takes skill to be in 21 episodes and not really be relevant. Kayla Hassan was around a lot, but outside of when she was kidnapped and drove the EMP into CTU, she didn't have any real impact on the story. Fortunately she's cute and likable. On a side note, she's married to Morris O'Brian in real life. That strikes me as super weird.

99. Josh Bauer
Season(s): 6
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Josh_bauer

The idea of Josh Bauer is kind of offensive - here's this kid that Jack barely knows, yet he's somehow the key to all the happenings in the second half of season 6. Jack goes nuts to save Josh even though he basically hasn't been alive for 5-6 years and has never mentioned Josh. The "JOSH! UNCLE JACK!" scene is hilarious and the whole plotline makes most people roll their eyes.

Josh Bauer himself isn't too bad. He's pretty realistic, even if the situation swirling around him isn't. He spends most of the day in disbelief about his dad being a terrorist and about his grandfather kidnapping him and wanting to bring him to China. He isn't screaming out for help or playing the victim card. I kinda like the kid, all truth told, but the plotline prevents me from liking him any more than this.

98. Lynne Kresge
Season(s): 2
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Lynne_Kresge

I flat out don't like this girl very much. One of Palmer's main advisors in season 2, Lynne is intelligent, informative and reasonable. When dealing with Palmer she does a good job of giving him advice and has his best interests in mind at all times, something that cannot be said for any other political figure during season 2.

But man, when it comes to Sherry? This girl is just terrible. She's prissy and jealous of another woman being close to David. She gets all territorial and says things like "I HAVE GREAT CREDENTIALS AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT RIGHT YOU HAVE TO BE HERE." That's just awful. Sherry runs circles around her all day, making her look bad and just generally mocking her. Sherry can't resist her massive ego and often will go out of her way to remind Lynne just how much better she is than her.

Lynne's best moment, of course, comes at her expense - when trying to point out Mike Novick as the person who caused her to be paralyzed, Mike cups her hand and pretends to comfort her. That's an awesome scene for Mike, but it's an awesome one for Lynne too. Seeing her get shut down one more time is great.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 8:21:58 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #089
97. Dmitri Gredenko
Season(s): 6
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Dmitri_Gredenko

I like this guy, though he doesn't really do anything besides cut off his own arm. Gredenko supplies Fayed with the suitcase nukes in order to start a war between the US and the middle east, thus leaving Russia to RETURN TO GLORY. Gredenko himself isn't the brightest guy, as evidenced by him double crossing Fayed, agreeing to cut off his arm and running for it. He died trying to run.

96. Kyle Singer
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Kyle_Singer

A mule used by "terrorists" to smuggle a virus into the United States disguised as cocaine. Singer is quarantined and has a fairly touching reunion scene with his parents only to find out that it's all a sham, and with that, we never saw him again.

95. Claudia Hernandez
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Claudia_Hernandez

Hector Salazar's longtime girlfriend who has an affair with Jack Bauer while he's undercover with the Salazars. Claudia is strong-willed and often indignant, but not without a reason. Claudia talks some sense into Jack when he's going through heroin withdrawl. She helps Jack and Chase escape and is killed during the escape when she asked to be written off the show thanks to her actress getting a new acting gig.

I never liked Claudia and Jack together - it felt too forced. Claudia is good in that she's a female love interest that isn't completely useless, but I don't like her chemistry with Jack at all. Her asking to be written off the show was a good move since she went out with a bang.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/26/2010 8:34:50 AM | message detail | filter | #090
Gredenko himself isn't the brightest guy, as evidenced by him double crossing Fayed, agreeing to cut off his arm and running for it. He died trying to run.

I totally blame it on being season 6 for this.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 8:53:29 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #091
94. Reed Pollock
Season(s): 6
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Reed_Pollock

Tom Lennox's underling. Reed blackmails Karen Hayes at Tom Lennox's request in order to force her resignation. Later, Reed tries to bring Tom in on a plan to assassinate Wayne Palmer. Tom initally agrees but realizes the error of his ways, but not before Assad sacrifices himself to save Wayne's life.

Reed Pollock comes off as this dorky idealist who would never be able to take matters into his own hands but would be happy calling somebody else to do it. He's scared and weak, but dangerous because of his ideals. Reed's a pretty good character that fits into the season 6 world, but not one that you necessarily want to see.

93. Sean Hillinger
Season(s): 7
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Sean_Hillinger

An FBI analyst that's annoying at best. Sean is highly unlikable - he's a jerk, he's cheating on his wife, and despite cheating on his wife he's breaking protocol to land his wife's plane in order to ensure his safety. It's really tough the whole season to get a grip on Sean - he seems like he could be a bad guy, but he's so obvious in how awful he is that it seems too obvious.

And then, just like that, it comes out that he's actually supporting Dubaku and suddenly Sean gets a lot cooler. Suddenly he's pretty sly and a good mole. He goes to the girl he's cheating on and co-conspirator, gets her to crash some servers and then shoots her in cold blood. He shoots himself and almost gets away with it until Chloe works her magic and catches him.

For that one episode, Sean is really good. For the seven episodes prior, he's miserable. He's tough to gauge. I'm kind of upset that we never got to see him again after he was caught.

92. Tim Woods
Season(s): 7, 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Tim_Woods

Director of Homeland Security and a competent advisor to President Taylor. Tim Woods is always solid and never spectacular, though he's great in the final scenes of season 8 thanks to being supportive and obedient. He's basically a poor man's Ethan Kanin, but he does an admirable job of filling his shoes. I like this guy but it's tough to put him much higher given his irrelevance.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/26/2010 9:09:05 AM | message detail | filter | #092
gary way too high but you probably knew i'd say that - the fact he antagonizes s2 kim is great, but it's also the driving force behind her subplot, and that's awful. plus he has absolutely no redeeming characteristics whatsoever.

i also dock gredenko, josh, and singer for being extremely unattractive and pretty much assaulting my eyes with their presence along with my brain for their bad subplots. yeah, gredenko's only sins are ugliness and the ridiculousness of his actions, but why is he above erwich, who's mostly inoffensive? kyle's entire subplot, while not entirely unenjoyable, was awful. and josh was the catalyst for phillip bauer returning to the --

ctrl+f 'phillip' oh what the f
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 9:10:45 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #093
haha, I like phil. the concept of him is completely offensive but the character itself was a good one.
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91. Lynn McGill
Season(s): 5
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Lynn_McGill

A by-the-book CTU director sent in when terrorists took over the airport in season 5. Lynn is completely unlikable at first - he's anal as hell, he fires people for looking at him the wrong way, he refuses to compromise. He's made to be even more unlikable when there's a bad subplot involving his drug addicted sister and him getting his ID stolen.

Later on, Lynn gets paranoid and starts firing people. He locks Bill down and forces Audrey and Curtis to relieve him of his command. At this point he's the most unlikable dude ever. Nobody trusts him and he's the reason that CTU is under attack.

When everyone is locked into safe rooms, Lynn is the only one that can reach the computer to flush out the gas. Lynn's final scene is one of redemption - he sacrifices himself so others can live. It's a great scene and one that absolutely redeems him. Lynn is still a giant douche, but at least he went out like a champ.

90. Arlo Glass
Season(s): 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Arlo_Glass

Arlo managed to get into all 24 episodes of season 8 despite only doing one thing for the first 2/3rds of it: hitting on Dana Walsh in the most awful way possible. For the first 80% of season 8 this guy is really bad.

Later on in the day, he becomes Chloe's trusted assistant for reasons unknown. He's competent as an analyst and works well with Chloe, but the idea of Cole, Chloe and Arlo working together at the end of season 8 just doesn't mesh. Arlo's out of his league there. He ends up being a decent analyst but not necessarily a decent character - he's just there because somebody else has to do something. That somebody is Arlo.
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FFDragon | Posted 5/26/2010 9:21:51 AM | message detail | filter | #095
Arlo reminded me of a downgraded version of Milo. Even his name sounds like a prototype for Milo.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/26/2010 9:23:24 AM | message detail | filter | #096
arlo's a role that's been done before, but seeing a piece of **** redeem himself with solid backup is always enjoyable to a minor extent

mcgill's high to me but oh well. i think tim woods should be higher, but maybe that's only because my friend and i made him into an inside joke early in s7 when we noticed that his only two pieces of dialogue, ever, were 'madam president, you have a call waiting on line 1' and 'madam president, sorry to interrupt, but there's a call waiting for you. it's jack bauer. he says it's urgent'

then he reappeared against all odds in s2 after rob weiss, who looks and talks exactly like him, showed up for half the season before selling taylor out like a little *****.

then he returned to his mainstay' position and promoted chloe and became taylor's last ignorant sheep. i love the disapproving/suspicious looks he gives her, never voicing his thoughts, but laying tacit criticism on taylor. call me a fanboy but i think woods's silent disapproval played a role in taylor's breakdown and face turn.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/26/2010 9:25:00 AM | message detail | filter | #097
Arlo reminded me of a downgraded version of Milo. Even his name sounds like a prototype for Milo.

agreed, and 'glass' is vaguely similar to 'pressman' too. arlo's got a lot more personality than s1 milo though and is much more likable than the s6 version due to milo's awful insertion into not one but two love triangles. more talk on milo to come

for now - 'who is jack bauer?'

'mikhail novakovitch' -> 'mike novick' is the best though
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 9:28:02 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #098
Tim Woods's look of disapproval followed by his quick obedience is my favourite thing about him. I thought that was great acting.
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FFDragon | Posted 5/26/2010 9:30:03 AM | message detail | filter | #099

From: SenpaiDessus | Posted: 5/26/2010 9:25:00 AM | #097
'mikhail novakovitch' -> 'mike novick' is the best though


Oh man how did I not see this before now?
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/26/2010 9:34:00 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #100
89. Jamey Farrell
Season(s): 1
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Jamey_Farrell

This girl just looks weird. There's something wrong with her face and I can't figure out what exactly it is.

Jamey is the one person Richard Walsh trusts which of course means that she's a mole. After some coercion, Jamey confesses to Tony and Nina that she was working for Gaines and gave them access to their cameras. When Tony goes away, Nina kills her and makes it look like suicide.

I don't really have much of an opinion on Jamey. She doesn't seem especially likable but she's not bad either. She doesn't seem like a CTU analyst type at all.

88. Janet York
Season(s): 1
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Janet_York

I feel bad for Janet - tortured and killed for the sake of being Kim's friend. Janet really doesn't do very much besides run and get hit by a car, but she set up two very key moments:

1.) the good guys are not safe (getting her arm broken by Dan and then hit by a car);
2.) the first great plot twist, "Alan York"

A lot of what makes Janet good is that she came first. That said, you can't take that novelty away from her.

87. Alan Milliken
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Milliken

A rich man supportive of David Palmer who discovers that his disaster of a wife was cheating on him with David's brother. He threatens to withdraw his support unless Wayne is fired and when he isn't, he wields his influence with other lawmakers to start voting against it. He ends up being talked to death by Sherry Palmer and his story comes to an end.

I like Alan for some reason. I think it's his righteousness combined with the fact that he's in a wheelchair. He's got some flair to him. I shouldn't like him since he's part of the whole season 3 David Palmer arc, but I have a soft spot for him and feel bad about the whole Julia thing. Probably because it involves Julia.
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