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transience ranks every notable character from "24". (mega spoilers) (mega-list)

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SSJ Link | Posted 5/29/2010 12:45:24 AM | message detail | filter | #301
MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/29/2010 2:59:56 AM | message detail | filter | #302
I LOVE Dubaku not being listed yet.
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GeneralKenobi85 | Posted 5/29/2010 12:24:01 PM | message detail | filter | #303
Dubaku was better than the villains of most other seasons. And then it got even better with Hodges.
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The Beginning | Posted 5/29/2010 1:00:52 PM | message detail | filter | #304
Sammy Dubaku was like African Ira Gaines.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 3:14:53 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #305
hey Dennis Hopper died

RIP Victor Drazen, the first ridiculous accent in 24 history
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VincentLauw | Posted 5/29/2010 3:14:59 PM | message detail | filter | #306

From: transients | #295
"mistah bowah" is a classic


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PLAYlNGTHEGAME | Posted 5/29/2010 4:00:01 PM | message detail | filter | #307
what about tonys accent for the first two episodes
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 4:27:51 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #308
39. Michael Amador
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Amador

One of the best moments of season 3 is all Michael Amador: After Amador double crosses the Salazars and Nina, he's being tracked by a Delta-3 team. When he gets stopped, he nonchalantly walks out of the car and puts his hands up. When the team tells him to lay down on the ground, he stands there and slowly nods to his team in hiding, who completely owns the Delta team. Amador runs back in his vehicle, takes out his cell phone, calmly smashes it, gets back in and pulls out the virus. It's an excellent transition from the Salazars and Nina to Amador as the main bad guy.

Amador's got style. He's wearing a perfect suit and he's super calm. This one scene endears him to me. Afterwards, he ends up captured and agitated and he's not nearly as cool. Saunders blows him up when he's trying to escape the country and that's the end of his story. For those couple of minutes though? He's awesome.

38. Chase Edmunds
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Chase_Edmunds

I could never fully get behind Chase. He was the original sidekick of Jack's, but everything that he did was so incredibly inferior to Jack that he looks bad. Chase tries to stop Jack from getting Salazar out of prison and fails. Chase tries to track Jack to Mexico and gets captured. Chase tries to get Jack's permission to date Kim and gets denied. At the end of the day, Chase tries to be a hero but ends up losing his arm thanks to Jack. Basically, Chase is a mini-Jack but with none of the indestructible qualities.

He's really not a bad character and he takes a tremendous amount of abuse during day 3 and keeps on going. You can make an argument that Chase is the day 3 hero and not Jack - he doesn't do underhanded things like start a prison riot or almost shoot his partner in the head, and he does end up saving the day by retrieving the last vial of the virus. That's admirable, but it'd be much better if he could actually step out of Jack's shadow.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/29/2010 4:31:17 PM | message detail | filter | #309
both these guys are good but clearly not worth of being above the likes of cheng zhi or benjamin juma
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VincentLauw | Posted 5/29/2010 4:31:18 PM | message detail | filter | #310
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2010 4:31:50 PM | message detail | filter | #311
You know, I didn't realize Amador was in as many episodes as he was.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/29/2010 4:36:10 PM | message detail | filter | #312
admittedly dat ambush was freaking awesome though, agreed that it's a mega-S3 highlight
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 4:46:47 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #313
37. Morris O'Brian
Season(s): 5, 6, 7
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Morris_O%27Brian

Jack Bauer is being hunted by every law agency in America. His only proof of Logan being complicit has been erased. He has very few people on his side at this point. There's only one place to turn: an ex-drunk CTU agent turned shoe salesman. Oh, and he's Chloe's ex-husband?

I love season 5, but this crap is stupid. Seriously, Chloe is social enough to get married?

And yet, Morris is pretty fun. He's a sarcastic dick that thinks he's more charming than he is. He's good in any scene that Chloe isn't in. When he's being a dick to Milo and Doyle, it's actually pretty funny. Morris drops way off when he gets taken by Darren McCarthy and ends up arming the detonators for Fayed - at this point he's just an emo loser and not that great. When Morris is in top shape, though? He's pretty good. He runs absolute circles around the FBI guys in season 7 when he makes a cameo to save Chloe's ass.

36. Paul Raines
Season(s): 4
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Paul_Raines

Paul starts out as a total tool, a loser trying to get back with the girl that Jack is now banging. Needless to say, he looks bad compared to Jack. He's angsting all over the place at the idea of Audrey with another man, and when it's shown that he had dealings with Marwan, Jack has to torture him. At this point he's miserable.

Paul Raines gets so much better that it's not even funny. He slowly comes to grips with Audrey moving on and agrees to help Jack. Paul ends up captured when the EMP goes off and gets tortured, then saves Jack's life by taking a bullet for him. Paul goes from being a shiveling little punk to pretty damn heroic.

Jack repays him in what I think is the most gut-wrenching scene in 24 history: he chooses Lee Jong's life over Paul's and pulls a gun on the doctor working on Paul. Fair or not, I give Paul credit for this scene. If it wasn't for all the awesome things Paul had done for Jack, I would never have felt this heartbroken. Paul Raines walks into season 4 a tool and ends up a hero, at the cost of his own life.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2010 4:50:01 PM | message detail | filter | #314
transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 5:06:54 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #315
35. Dalia Hassan
Season(s): 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Dalia_Hassan

The first few episodes of Dalia Hassan are awful. She's a super jealous wife of a president who's cheating on her with a "western whore". She is just ungodly obnoxious - I'd put her below early-season Dana Walsh by far. She starts to come around when Kayla gets kidnapped, and by the time Omar is killed, she's not that bad.

Her rise from grieving widow to IRK president is flat out amazing, though. I'd go as far as to say that she's better than Omar Hassan towards the end. I've only seen s8 once so I can't pull up specific quotes or scenes, but she absolutely kills every scene she's in for the last 6-8 episodes. She projects her pain tremendously and she will not accept anyone covering Omar's death. She completely destroys Allison Taylor on more than one occasion.

It's too bad she starts out being so dismissive of Omar, because it would really be believable otherwise. That's bad writing. Dalia Hassan is one of the best characters by the end of the show, but the beginning drags her down pretty far. She might be top 15 for me if that didn't exist. God, just writing this reminds me of every Dalia scene and makes me want to put her much higher. She was great.

34. Cole Ortiz
Season(s): 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Cole_Ortiz

My first instinct was to laugh at the idea of Freddie Prinze Jr. as a CTU agent, but he starts off with a bang. His rescue of Omar in episode 3 of season 8 is fantastic, as is the way he does not submit when he's captured by Davros a couple episodes later. Cole has the potential to be a top 10 guy at this point.

After that, Cole starts to kinda suck. He gets dragged down by Dana bigtime. He's played by her more than once, especially during the bank scene. Like Chase, he gets played by Jack repeatedly. At the end, he's reduced to taking orders from Chloe and being three steps behind Jack the whole way. He's still a cool character, but it's such a letdown given how great he was at the start of the season. It was like the writers said "let's let this guy shine until we're ready for Jack to be Jack, and then we'll throw him off to the side and make him irrelevant."

g'bye, Cole. If we had a season 9, I think you could have blossomed into a good character. You almost remind me of Curtis Manning during season 4 - an unexpectedly awesome character with some baggage that could grow into something great. Too bad.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 5:23:41 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #316
33. Jason Pillar
Season(s): 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Jason_Pillar

When I was first formulating this list, I didn't even expect to list Jason Pillar, but he ended up shooting up my list in the last few episodes.

The thing that strikes me about Pillar is how competent he is. He'd be a fantastic CTU director if he wasn't under Logan's orders to cover something up. Normally these kinds of guys are just jerks, but Pillar is really resourceful and makes really good decisions based on his intel and his objective. On top of that, he doesn't actually seem like a bad guy at all. His scene with Jack sold me on him bigtime. He seems like a legitimately good guy who's just working in the best interests of the government -- or what he thinks is the best interest, anyway. He's on the side of Charles Logan so it's hard to tell.

When Pillar comes to his senses and says that it's over to Logan, Logan hits him over the head and then shoots him. I was so sad here. I thought this guy was great and was sad to see him die, even if the show was concluding five minutes later. I really liked Pillar.

32. Edgar Stiles
Season(s): 4, 5
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Edgar_Stiles

Edgar isn't particularly cool. He's not really interesting. He's fat and gets easily flustered.

What Edgar Stiles is is endearing. He stutters and he's a dork, but you can really get behind him. When he stops the override device in season 4, he's sweating and scared but perseveres. It's a legitimate feel-good moment. He's got a really fun relationship with Chloe too. Chloe protects him and Edgar does good work for her.

When CTU gets hit and Edgar dies in season 5, it's incredibly depressing. Edgar's just a regular guy. He's not supposed to be a casualty of a nerve gas attack on CTU. Chloe's reaction sells the scene. I think that, of all the silent clocks, Edgar's was the best. They just got it right there. Poor Edgar.
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VincentLauw | Posted 5/29/2010 5:25:13 PM | message detail | filter | #317
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2010 5:27:33 PM | message detail | filter | #318
I didn't like Pillar much at all. But to each his own!
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/29/2010 5:36:02 PM | message detail | filter | #319
pillar was confident, competent, and charismatic. but i don't think he deserves to be this high, simply because he doesn't get a lot of **** done. i also totally disagree with your assessment of his motivations; the dude is a douche and his loyalties lie not with the government but with logan. the thing i'll remember most about pillar is that he arrested chloe and cole and prevented the recording from coming out - along with the fact that he gets his head bashed in by logan. his best redeeming feature was definitely trying to call off the hit on bauer, which did make me sad to see him go - a life for a life.

edgar wasn't much of a character but his death hits hard and strong and beautifully. i also really like that in his very first conversation chloe's like 'edgar have you written down the protocols' and edgar's like 'NO NEED I GOT THEM ALL MEMORIZED.' dude's more autistic than chloe.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/29/2010 6:02:13 PM | message detail | filter | #320
i'm also surprised dahlia's this high up. did you sleep with her actress or something
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/29/2010 6:13:48 PM | message detail | filter | #321
Dalia evolved into one of the greatest presidents, foreign or not, by the end of the season. I have no problem with her being this high up. I honestly enjoyed her scenes in the finale more than most of the stuff involving Jack.

She makes more sense being this high up than Pillar at any rate.
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LOLContests | Posted 5/29/2010 6:24:39 PM | message detail | filter | #322
DILFy Jason Pillar <3.

It was so tragic when he died :(

I temporarily got my hopes up when someone on another forum said that they thought they heard that he lived, but I think they were mistaken.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 6:37:31 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #323
huh. I didn't think Pillar this high would be a popular opinion but I didn't expect people to flat out not like him. I thought he was pretty damn good in his limited screentime (though he made 8 episodes, more than several prominent characters) and totally disagree with SD's take on him. I don't see him as a douche at all. I see him as loyal, but he doesn't really do things just to be a prick. instead, he does things because it gets done that way - after all, he's walking into a hostile situation and he knows it. playing nice isn't going to work. it's not like Chappelle where he's just being a dick for the sake of protocol or something.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 8:06:09 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #324
31. Audrey Raines
Season(s): 4, 5, 6
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Audrey_Raines

For most people this will probably be too high. Audrey Raines really doesn't do anything super special, and she's kind of vanilla. I always liked her relationship with Jack though. I thought she was the one that made the most sense - daughter of the Secretary of Defense, working for DOD, understands who Jack is and what he does. She's also willing to go around authority if need be. She circumvents Lynn McGill's authority more than once and she lies for Jack to Cheng in day 4. She goes around Karen and Miles's tracking in day 5 too. She's a good match for him.

Audrey has an absolutely miserable day 4. She starts out so in love with Jack until she sees what he's truly capable of as a field agent: torturing Paul and later killing him. Audrey's "Jack. JACK. YOU'RE KILLING HIM" makes the scene and makes me like her more. Audrey's responses always seemed natural to me, and even when she goes against Jack, it makes perfect sense why she would.

I always feel bad for Audrey. Like Heller says, everything he touches ends up dead. Audrey watches her ex-husband die, watches Jack get taken prisoner and then ends up tortured in China. She really got the short end of the stick when it comes to luck. Poor Audrey.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2010 8:10:22 PM | message detail | filter | #325
Audrey is so forgettable to me. I can't seem to remember any defining moments from her in her three seasons. The thing that sticks out most is her being a vegetable in bed during the last minutes of S6.

Oh well.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 8:18:29 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #326
yeah I imagine most people feel like that. that's exactly how I feel about Kate.

Audrey is involved in scenes that I like a hell of a lot more though - end s6 like you said, Paul Raines, several scenes in s5 (the artery scene with Henderson, one where Curtis comes and saves the day, some others). I wouldn't call her forgettable so much as being kind of boring. I still like her as a match for Jack.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/29/2010 8:27:26 PM | message detail | filter | #327
nah, it's not that pillar does stuff to be mean, but i mean, the dude's clearly very self-serving. you don't align yourself with charles logan to help america, you do it for a high-risk high-reward power play. he's loyal, but it's clearly incredibly misplaced. and in that sense he's naive in addition to competent.

audrey's a little too vanilla to be this high for me. i know you like her though, so no point in arguing her. kate's still my favorite match for jack, but also in a vanilla sense - i never thought jack needed a love who was involved in his line of work.
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LOLContests | Posted 5/29/2010 8:28:27 PM | message detail | filter | #328
I remember really liking the touch where the dialogue Audrey has in the S4 finale when Jack "dies" is the same as the one she has in the scene where Paul dies.

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transience (tc) | Posted 5/29/2010 8:31:50 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #329
30. Gael Ortega
Season(s): 3
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Gael_Ortega

A CTU agent that's made to look as guilty as possible until it's revealed that he's actually working with Jack and Tony on a massive sting operation. Gael is a highly competent agent who ends up being the one first afflicted by the Cordilla virus. Gael fights to the very end and sticks to his morals, choosing against suicide.

Gael's very easy to like. He's kind of heroic (though ultimately isn't successful at protecting the virus), and his conversations at the hotel with Michelle are really good. He plays a good villain until the truth is revealed by Tony. For somebody that seems so vital to the season 3 plot, it's tough to really come up with things to say about Gael. He's just cool, nothing more and nothing less.

29. Ira Gaines
Season(s): 1
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Ira_Gaines

As a terrorist, he's not very good. He lets Kim and Teri run amok in the compound and has people disobeying him for hours without him doing anything or noticing. He doesn't even tie them up.

As a character, Ira Gaines is pretty awesome. He's sarcastic with lots of good oneliners. His interplay with Jack is great. He's the only guy to ever really control Jack for an extended period of time, though granted that's because he had Jack's family. Ira Gaines has so many good lines that it's hard to pick one to mention. It's too bad that a guy this fun got relegated to mid-season villain - with more at stake, he could have been an all-time great. The scene where Andre Drazen shows him up hard really hurts him. Gaines seemed really powerful until then.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2010 8:35:16 PM | message detail | filter | #330
TheRock1525 | Posted 5/29/2010 8:39:15 PM | message detail | filter | #331
I always felt the worst for Jack when he had to say goodbye to Audrey. Especially since it was a choice he had to make. Other women were taken away from him, this was the first time (unless you count Kate) that he had to make the decision to leave her.
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TheRock1525 | Posted 5/29/2010 8:50:14 PM | message detail | filter | #332
Actually, I always thought Audrey was Jack's true love. I could do a write-up about it if you'd like.
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TTF | Posted 5/29/2010 9:33:51 PM | message detail | filter | #333
Other women were taken away from him, this was the first time (unless you count Kate) that he had to make the decision to leave her.

Jack didn't have a choice. Audrey's father forced him to leave.
Senjougaharaism | Posted 5/30/2010 3:37:54 AM | message detail | filter | #334
the thing I will always remember pillar for is getting part of his ear bitten off by jack, tbqh
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/30/2010 4:20:31 AM | message detail | filter | #335
WTF Olivia really wasn't that bad, neither was Martha Logan

transcience hates women omg
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/30/2010 4:25:54 AM | message detail | filter | #336
Nah, Olivia was very bad.

Every moment she was in was an AUGH moment, and she killed off who was probably the best new character of Season 7.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/30/2010 4:37:06 AM | message detail | filter | #337
also, Noah Daniels was a champ
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/30/2010 8:48:05 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #338
bad opinions, yeesh
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PLAYlNGTHEGAME | Posted 5/30/2010 9:01:05 AM | message detail | filter | #339
i loved daniels because he was so hellbent on launching that nuke. i was stunned when he didnt just nuke sangala during redemption. now that was out of character
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PLAYlNGTHEGAME | Posted 5/30/2010 9:01:59 AM | message detail | filter | #340
Actually, I always thought Audrey was Jack's true love. I could do a write-up about it if you'd like.

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My Immortal | Posted 5/30/2010 9:09:57 AM | message detail | filter | #341
Dahlia Hassan too low! She's probably a top 10 character for me, honestly.
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The Hero Of Time | Posted 5/30/2010 12:36:55 PM | message detail | filter | #342
Well, I missed the making of the majority of this list, but it's still good to see one for one of my favourite shows.

Ira Gaines is a favourite of mine, not the least of which is due to his name; he has one of my favourite villain names in the show, alongside Ike Dubaku and Abu Fayed.

Since you've mentioned Olivia, I will say one good thing about her; she really looks like she's the daughter of Allison Taylor. Compared to the many family members that don't look like each other, it was refreshing to see a family resemblance for once.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/30/2010 2:34:43 PM | message detail | filter | #343
gaines possibly too low

just realized fayed's not on this list yet ^5

and yes don't forget it's colonel ike dubaku
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/30/2010 2:35:12 PM | message detail | filter | #344
oh, and gael perfectly placed. dude was a champ.
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htaeD | Posted 5/30/2010 2:37:22 PM | message detail | filter | #345
I too am surprised at the absence of Fayed
pleasantly tho
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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 5/30/2010 2:39:24 PM | message detail | filter | #346
I guess I didn't realize how well liked Marwan was. For some reason i was shocked he wasn't listed yet then I saw Sess's prediction of tranny's top 5
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/30/2010 3:57:58 PM | message detail | filter | #347
bad opinions, yeesh

I know right?! Someone has to come in here with good opinions, looks like it's up to me :P
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/30/2010 4:26:33 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #348
28. Habib Marwan
Season(s): 4
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Habib_Marwan

Habib Marwan is not the most charismatic villain. You don't get great scenes with him. You can't point to a single moment when Marwan really owned someone. He's probably best known for staying alive against all odds.

Marwan brings two things to the table: 1.) he's exceptionally competent and 2.) he's got a fierce determination. He's not the kind of guy that will give you a death stare or have really cool villainous traits, but when Jack tries to interrogate him, he realizes that he's not going to break. At the end of season 4, Jack's holding onto Marwan as he's hanging off the edge of a building and Marwan pulls out a knife to cut Jack's hand and make him fall. That's how determined he is. Check out his big speech:

People of America, you wake up today to a different world. One of your own nuclear weapons has been used against you. It will be days and weeks before you can measure the damage we have caused. But as you count your dead, remember why this has happened to you. You have no knowledge for the causes of the people you strike down or the nations you conquer. You choose to meddle in their affairs, without respect. You follow your government, unquestioningly, toward your own slaughter. Today, you pay the price for that ignorance. ... Unless you renounce your policies of imperialism and interventionist activities, this attack will be followed by another... and another after that.

As for the first point, Marwan has a hell of a plan on day 4. He crashes a train so he can retrieve the override device, then kidnaps Heller to embarrass the country, then uses the override device to shut down every power plant in the US, then distracts CTU by offering to exchange Jack Bauer for Behrooz Araz to give Mitch Anderson time to steal an F-1 bomber, then shoots down Air Force One (the most successful terrorist attack in 24 history to that point), then collects the nuclear football out of the remains of Air Force One, then hijacks a nuke and nearly blows up a city with it.

He might not have Saunders's charisma or Henderson's tenacity or Hodges's all around awesome, but Marwan is quite possibly the best villain in 24 history.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 5/30/2010 4:33:12 PM | message detail | filter | #349
marwan kicks ass. i think his charisma is underrated, and i think he deserves mention for the fact that he's personally very smart. the very first time we see him, he causes a riot while standing right in front of CTU officers; then kills and impersonates a CTU officer to escape. as far as moments of kickass go, you can start right there. i also love the smirk when he gives dina the empty gun and the way he trades jack for behrooz - 'your boy scout is just fine.' people on the TV board hate him for 'wasting time' but the dude's plan is all about ****ing around with CTU to make them waste time. and then he's also wicked nice to his subordinates - when his underling calls him to tell him he ****ed up, he doesn't call on his guys to take him out; he asks prado to take him out of the country.

i don't know how else to put it - the dude is just the terrorist version of jack bauer.
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transience (tc) | Posted 5/30/2010 4:35:36 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #350
nah, that's Henderson. Marwan is his own thing. I wouldn't compare him to Bauer except in his elusiveness. Marwan lives way longer than he should, just like Bauer.
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