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transience ranks every notable character from "24". (mega spoilers) (mega-list)
i haven't watched anything but the first season when it aired where did jack's wife and daughter rank?(if not already ranked) --- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs |
I think everyone was. And being that 24 has a tendency to have important people live ridiculous injuries(Air Force one for example >_>), he shouldve lived it <_< --- My God, did that predict good! Dr_Football-l-l it no goin' and you tell me do things, I done runnin'... |
From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #452 You know what always bothered me? Has any president really "survived?" Think about it: David Palmer? Dead. John Keeler? For all intents and purposes, dead. Charles Logan? "Died" twice. Wayne Palmer? Somewhat like Keeler. Noah Daniels is the only ex-president not to have something horrible happen to him. --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
moss over chloe, season 6 love, what's next renee at 15? jeeze --- DON~! |
top 15 time 15. George Mason Season(s): 1, 2 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/George_Mason "You still have a life, Jack. You wanna be a real hero? Here's what you do. You get back down there and you put the pieces together. You find a way to forgive yourself for what happened to your wife. You make things right with your daughter, and you go on serving your country. That'd take some real guts." George Mason doesn't have the best start to his 24 career. One episode in, George gets tranq'd and Jack calls him on embezzling $200,000 in a drug deal bust. Throughout the beginning of season 1, George tries to keep Jack on a leash. George is occasionally on the good guy's side, but when he's not, he's not really super likable. He's still sarcastic and telling jokes, but it doesn't feel like we're in on the joke. It seems more petty than funny. George doesn't come into his own until season 2, and not until he gets exposed to plutonium on a raid. George hears about the bomb and is ready to make a run for it until Tony calls him on it. Before the bomb, George is a scared, pathetic man, only worried about himself. I wouldn't rank him in the top 30 and maybe even the top 50 before his plutonium exposure. Afterwards, we see the slow change from an angry man that wants nothing to do with being a hero to a man that will spend his last hours to save as many people as possible. George Mason is the star of season 2. I mean sure, day 2 doesn't get to where it is without Jack, and Jack is probably at his most heroic in season 2. But George Mason is what people will remember in day 2. People remember his body falling apart and him bleeding through his suit. People remember his tearful reunion with his son who he hadn't seen in years. George's talks with Michelle about how he wanted to be a teacher and "what are you gonna do tomorrow, if the bomb doesn't go off?" are great. His final exit from CTU was so notable that the writers gave him a mid-episode season clock - unheard of, especially at the time when the only silent clock in 24 history was the most significant moment of the series, Teri's death. Not even the bomb itself got a silent clock. The bomb is, of course, George's biggest moment, though I have a preference for his talks with Michelle and his exit from CTU. I also think the Kim phone call is the bigger highlight of 2-15. Still, George telling Jack what was up was pretty awesome, as was Jack's "you are SURE you can do this?". George Mason wasn't always awesome, but in his last hours, he made up for it bigtime. --- xyzzy |
14. Nina Myers Season(s): 1, 2, 3 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Nina "This is for a crime I haven't committed yet. The murder of Jack Bauer." Nina Myers is the biggest plot twist of my lifetime. It still makes no sense to me how she could do all those things for Jack and then be working to kill him, but whatever, it was an awesome plot twist. If I were to rank 24 plot twists, they'd go like this: 1. Nina Myers 2. the season 3 sting operation 3. Logan's involvement in season 5 4. David Palmer's black hand (season 4) 5. Tony killing Larry Moss and the worst: 1. Graem Bauer 2. Chloe randomly passes out and is pregnant on the final hour of an operation about to stop a world war 3. Gael's wife shoots Saunders 4. old man Heller subdues Jack Bauer with a throat punch 5. Lisa Miller is sleeping with some Russian lobbyist Anyway, Nina. Nina in season 1 will do literally anything for Jack. She puts her career on the line for him multiple times - lying to Alberta Green, going behind Tony's back, even allowing herself to be shot for his sake. It's like she has a huge crush on him until the 23rd hour. Nina Myers post-traitor is where she gets interesting. She's likable in season 1 but she's not the character we come to remember at all. Nina is elusive and a great liar, probably better than anyone else in the show's history. She is an absolute snake and it's her best trait. I don't think she has a lot of great moments like the other top-tier characters, but she brings out the absolute best in Jack. Jack hates this woman. He'll take a shot at her whenever he can. He sits down and lays one hell of a guilt trip on her on the plane in season 2. He loves interrogating her. And finally, he shoots her in cold blood because he's just sick of her crap. But that's not to say that this relationship is all one-sided. Nina obviously has the trump card of having killed his wife, but she also takes him hostage in season 2 and asks to be pardoned for his murder (which she gets). In season 3, she makes him kiss her just because he hates her that much. As a villain she's more of a recurring character than somebody who masterminds a terrorist attack -- after all, she's just in it for the money -- but as a foil to Jack, there is nobody better. --- xyzzy |
Man, Assad was awesome. Like Fayed, great character in a bad season. He also gets points for being played by Doctor Bashir. Some who has watched both 24 and the various Star Trek series would know that the two share actors at times; for example, the actors who play Larry Moss, Ethan Kanin, Benjamin Juma, Blaine Mayer, and even Charles Logan have had guest roles in Trek, while the actresses who played Lynne Kresge and Sherry Palmer had prominent supporting roles... I guess part of the could be due to the fact that the two series share some executive producers. But, Assad is the only case where a series regular in Trek got a major role in 24. George Mason is my hero. Season 2 Mason after infection may very well be the best boss CTU ever had (yes, better than when Jack was the head; we barely got to see him in the role, anyways), he was just so much cooler when he stopped caring about protocol or what the oh-so powerful vagueness that is DIVISION thinks. --- When Snake sees a "!" over someone's head, he runs and hides. When the Pokemon Trainer sees a "!", he beats them up and takes their money. |
Nina is awesome. --- I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I? |
4. old man Heller subdues Jack Bauer with a throat punch more like best plot twist --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
13. Ethan Kanin Season(s): 6, 7, 8 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Ethan_Kanin "She's definitely hiding something. Luckily for us I'm a paranoid son of a *****." When we're first introduced to Ethan in a full-time role (season 7), we're not quite sure what to make of him. He is a reasonable advisor but he's on the wrong side of a decision - the decision to withdraw from Sangala and give in to Dubaku's demands. It's a solemn reminder of season 2, where Mike Novick felt the same way about attacking the three unnamed countries and double-crossed David Palmer. Ethan Kanin walks that Mike Novick path, but he strays when it comes to moral choices. Novick will get his hands dirty if need be while Kanin is more in the David Palmer archetype of "do the right thing". At first, it's Allison Taylor that's doing the right thing to Ethan's pragmatism, but by the end of season 8 we've gone through a role reversal. Ethan comes out of every exchange as the better man and has some damn powerful scenes. Season 7 Ethan is a good character, but he's not special until he resigns as Chief of Staff due to releasing Bauer into an FBI operation that went wrong when John Quinn murdered Ryan Burnett. He handles tough decisions quickly and rationally, but a lot of them end up going the wrong way. When Aaron Pierce starts to suspect something is wrong with Olivia Taylor's behavior, he calls Kanin to help him uncover evidence. Ethan gets busted by Olivia and is forced to give up the evidence, only for Ethan to pull an awesome move and have a separate SD card on him. After a season of questionable decision making, it's clear now that Ethan is on the side of justice and not just your standard politician. Day 8 is where Ethan comes into his own. He is the mastermind of the peace accord that is going to be signed today and is responsible for bringing the Russians to the table. When Ethan finds out what Rob Weiss and General Brucker are trying to do -- delivering Hassan to Samir behind the President's back -- Ethan vigorously objects and ends up having a heart attack while being restrained. After being left unconscious for a good hour, Ethan recovers quickly and is back on his feet to help Allison despite being against every medical order in the book. That's some Jack Bauer stuff right there. The last hours of day 8 are his best. Ethan brings in Charles Logan but when he sees where Logan is bringing Taylor, he objects. He has several exchanges with Logan and Taylor, and in every single one he comes out on top. Ethan absolutely owns several scenes with Taylor, and when it's clear that there is no return from this, he resigns for good. We never see him again. I like this about him -- he doesn't care about the power or the seat, he just will not stand for what is going on. That's why I like Ethan so much. He's kind of like Novick in that he's a really good advisor, but it's the way that he completely owns Allison Taylor and Charles Logan that endears him to me so much. --- xyzzy |
4. old man Heller subdues Jack Bauer with a throat punch You crazy, Throat Sucker Punch was hilariously awesome and Super Effective --- My God, did that predict good! Dr_Football-l-l it no goin' and you tell me do things, I done runnin'... |
yeah that's the problem, Jack Bauer takes out two dozen guys at once but an old man limping towards him manages to subdue him --- xyzzy |
It was a sucker punch. Jack can get taken out by Sucker Punches <_< --- My God, did that predict good! Dr_Football-l-l it no goin' and you tell me do things, I done runnin'... |
a sucker punch? he was pointing at him from like 50 feet away --- xyzzy |
12. Renee Walker Season(s): 7, 8 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Renee_Walker "She's not an asset, Jack, she's a human being!" Renee Walker is the only female field agent in 24 history. She starts out as a straight-arrow, a competent agent that obeys the rules and follows orders. Then she meets Jack Bauer. Renee Walker's decline is fast and ugly. She starts out seeming pretty happy and in control of herself, but by hour 4 she's torturing suspects, by hour 5 she's shot in the neck and suffocates, and by hour 8 she's torturing innocent families. By the end of the day she's no longer an FBI agent, having beaten the living hell out of Alan Wilson offscreen. Still, Walker is one 'sidekick' that manages to step out of Jack's shadow now and again. While Jack is dark and tracking the bioweapon, Renee follows Juma onto a boat and manages to get away unscathed. When Moss disagrees with her, she goes over his head and talks Ethan into releasing Jack. Her final act of torturing Alan Wilson is a Bauer specialty, except Bauer would get what he wanted. That's the biggest problem with Renee - only Jack gets those protagonist hax. Renee is doomed with bad luck. Day 8 begins with Renee being a complete mess, trying to kill herself before the season started and coming within inches of getting a terrorist to execute her. She acts like a rape victim for the first few episodes and ends up lashing out and killing Vladimir Laitanan, The rest of the season is pretty standard fare for her until her and Jack randomly have sex and she gets shot and killed. This part kinda sucked - Jack had known her for a whopping two days and this propelled him into some kind of rage never before seen. Renee's human qualities have always been a nice counter to Jack and his lack of humanity, but they really murdered Jack's personality for Renee's sake. For a lot of season 7, Jack is nothing more than a torture machine. I can't blame Renee for that though. She's got a good relationship with Jack (random sex scene aside) - Jack knows exactly where she is headed and he does everything he can to ease her pain since nobody could do that with him. Her relationship with Larry Moss was really good too. By season 8, she really doesn't have anybody to rely on besides Jack and it shows. She is just a mini-Jack Bauer at that point, only not invincible due to not being the main character. If Renee got stabbed like she stabbed Jack in season 8, she would have been out of commission for hours. Jack was suffering for 25 seconds. Renee doesn't really have any top tier moments, but she's all around consistent. --- xyzzy |
"I'm not going to cut the bracelet" --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
god you woman hater where is wayne palmer already --- DON~! |
If Heller wanted to knock out Jack Bauer, he should've used Jack's real weakness, a taser. Ethan and Renee are both favourites of mine, as well. Ethan manages to be one of the only major characters who is never evil, corrupt, a jerkass, or morally compromised; the only other major characters I can think of who share this are Bill Buchanan and possibly David Palmer (he did illegally 'interrogate' Roger Stanton, though I'm not sure if it really compromises his morals) Renee was one of my favourite Jack Bauer partners. She will be missed. And really, enough with the stupid woman hater comments. Being male or female has nothing to do whether a character is good or not. The reason why a lot of the lowest-ranking ones were female were simply due to being awful characters; it's not due to them being women. --- When Snake sees a "!" over someone's head, he runs and hides. When the Pokemon Trainer sees a "!", he beats them up and takes their money. |
looks like we got another one --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
the misogyny of this topic is making me uncomfortable --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
people are just joking with the women hater stuff. well except for SD but he's a terrorist so whatever --- xyzzy |
Wayne Palmer being this high is mind boggling. --- http://www.backloggery.com/myimmortal |
Okay see I'm not the only one then. You had me convinced I was the outlier for a second there. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
To
be fair, I gotta believe Renee and Jack, while not intimate, continued
to have SOME sort of relationship post season 7, pre-season 8. --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
wasnt Ethan also in season 6? .. He must have learned how to go Republican from Mike Novick --- FC 1849 0634 8041 Boring sig is boring |
From: htaeD | #475 Yep, he was. Don't remember what position. --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
Secretary of Defense, IIRC. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
people are just joking with the women hater stuff. well except for SD but he's a terrorist so whatever Ah, I see, okay. The only problem is that jokes are usually meant to be funny. I guess the whole gender thing is a touchy subject for me thanks to my time on the Brawl boards. And geez, you had me taken aback for a minute there; my username on every board I'm on except GameFAQs is Silver Dragoon, so I'm used to people referring to me as SD. --- When Snake sees a "!" over someone's head, he runs and hides. When the Pokemon Trainer sees a "!", he beats them up and takes their money. |
her
and Jack randomly have sex and she gets shot and killed. This part
kinda sucked - Jack had known her for a whopping two days and this
propelled him into some kind of rage never before seen. you didn't like this? --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
the
rage itself was okay, but the cause was kind of hollow. if that was
Audrey or Teri I could see it because there was a preexisting
relationship there, but Jack and Renee was kind of forced. the second
that sex happened you knew she was going to die and it happened within
minutes. it definitely felt wrong. --- xyzzy |
i would've had a problem if the assassination alone had done it, but there are plenty of reasons that i think this was ok: * we never saw jack's post-teri reaction, so we don't know if he went off the wall there. * we did see how jack reacted when heller tried to keep him from audrey - if jack feels betrayed, he turns very, very dark. * this is the third time that it's happened, and his relationships, kate warner aside, have gotten shorter each time. * kiefer's acting. and not just during the episode where renee is killed - one of my favorite overlooked moment occurs in the episode directly following renee's death, where he tells the nurse that he doesn't even know if she has parents. brilliant stuff there. * the death occurs after the day's events are supposed to be through. omar hassan has already died, and suddenly jack finds out that russians are involved and that it's not over. it's awful. * the way they come together afterward is the first time i've really liked their relationship. going on further about their relationship: you're right; it's not nearly as neat or lasting as his relationships with teri and audrey. but, after so much time spent with people who got killed as they were dragged into jack's world, jack finally found someone who managed to survive getting dragged into his world. i think in that sense renee understood jack better than teri and audrey did. also, renee's a young piece of ass that jack could kinda see as a 'final reward' after the suffering he's had - no such luck. i think the relationship is a sufficiently interesting one to motivate this. * the fact that it's not just her death that pushes him over the edge. the death is one catalyst, but then finding out about russians, being held down by taylor, and then being jerked around by dana walsh - i think that all of those things added up together. my interpretation here of course, since i know you thought that he'd had everything planned out before dana shot at civilians and tried to kill him. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
How is Kate the one that got away clean? She's like the one thing Jack's touched that didn't turn to ash. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
your
interpretation makes sense... if it was Jack freaking out for yet
another thing going wrong in his life that broke the camel's back. Jack
frames the next six hours as being all about Renee though, like they
had some kind of longterm relationship. in that sense, I think it's a
little off. I don't think Jack "planned everything out" -- I think he was out of control and being driven by rage and revenge. I definitely don't think Jack planned to kill her. Jack just saw the idea of letting her live and couldn't handle that scenario. --- xyzzy |
Time for #11 so the top 10 can be in a separate topic. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
11. Curtis Manning Season(s): 4, 5, 6 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Curtis_Manning Curtis starts his 24 career bickering with Marianne Taylor and ends it being a douche towards Assad, resulting in him being shot in the neck by Jack. His beginning and his end sucked. The middle, however, was pretty awesome. Curtis is a laid back kinda dude. He doesn't seem all that great until Marianne Taylor is killed and Curtis is knocked out. Curtis hasn't really done anything special to this point so he seems pretty expendable -- it wouldn't be a big loss if he got killed here. Curtis regains consciousness and instantly knocks both guys out, proceeding to secure the override device with Jack's help. Curtis didn't get saved, he saved himself. Curtis isn't exactly a sidekick to Jack like you'd expect. He's often doing things independently of Jack instead of just following him around. Curtis is often a background character who's merely good, but every once in a while he'll have a great moment. He's awesome when he punches Mandy in the face. He's good when he's working with Jack to rescue everyone in the airport in season 5. He's great when he relieves Lynn McGill of command. But my very favourite Curtis moment is towards the end of season 5. Audrey is all alone and Henderson is coming after her. The only person that can handle Henderson is Jack - he's just too good. Henderson's men close in on Audrey and someone sneaks up behind her.. it's Curtis. Curtis tells her to be quiet and then his team destroys Henderson's in a sneak attack. I can't remember a more successful CTU operation in 24 history, or at least anything that didn't involve Jack. I love this scene, it's one of the most underrated parts of season 5. Curtis had me there. And then season 6 starts, Curtis gets super lame about Assad and gets shot before you know it. You saw it coming and it was awful. Jack mourned his loss for three minutes and then we never talked about Curtis again. Argh. --- xyzzy |
Tony Almeida Jack Bauer Bill Buchanan Christopher Henderson Jonas Hodges Charles Logan Mike Novick David Palmer Wayne Palmer (AUGH) Aaron Pierce predict it --- xyzzy |
but you just told us the order |
i love the hand coming out and seizing audrey: audrey, it's curtis agreed that that was like the greatest non-jack CTU operation in 24 history disagree with novick and henderson being up here or even being in the top 25-30ish --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
also
the thing that bugged me most about curtis from S5 was his weird
timeliness: he takes ****ing forever to set up that rescue op at the
airport, and he takes a similarly long time to get the CRT to CTU after
the nerve gas strike on it. David Palmer Jack Bauer Tony Almeida Charles Logan Bill Buchanan Mike Novick Jonas Hodges Aaron Pierce Christopher Henderson Wayne Palmer --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
1. Jack 2. David 3. Tony 4. Bill 5. Logan 6. Henderson 7. Mike 8. Pierce 9. Wayne 10. Hodges --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
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Yeah,
"not gonna cut the bracelet" was absolutely Renee's standout moment. It
was so extreme Bauer was shocked - Bauer who, by the end of that
season, was torchuring a guy. --- "Go back to Wikipedia I'm sure they have a pretty good article on spases" - Lil69Leo Dr. Football |
man,
I totally forgot the bracelet part until now. that showed me how crazy
Renee had gotten in the interim between season 7 and season 8. I didn't
take it as some awesome moment - I thought it was more sad that Renee
had fallen that far. that said, it was a pretty cool scene. --- xyzzy |
It
always puzzled me that Jack sort of freaked out there because when he
was in a similar state he shot someone in the heart, cut off their
head, and put it in a bowling bag. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
Unless he was just freaking out at how far Renee had fallen, which would make more sense. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
he wasn't scared at what renee was doing; i think it was the fact that it was her
doing it. i just don't think he realized how far she'd fallen, and he
recognized the signs of nihilism in her because he'd been exactly there
before. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
yeah --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
Pretty much it, FFDragon. Do you think Jack wants anyone else to act the way he does? --- When Snake sees a "!" over someone's head, he runs and hides. When the Pokemon Trainer sees a "!", he beats them up and takes their money. |
yeah
that's how I took it. also, Jack has a really hard time looking in the
mirror. when Tony compromises CTU to protect Michelle, Jack does not
respond kindly. when Renee does things that Jack normally does, it
shocks him. --- xyzzy |
24 "the best" --- xyzzy |
