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transience ranks every notable character from "24" -- the top 10. (spoilers)

transients (tc) | Posted 6/2/2010 10:15:33 PM | message detail | filter | #001
125. Carrie Turner
124. Julia Milliken
123. Marilyn Bauer
122. Sandra Palmer
121. Miles Papazian
120. Richard Heller
119. Lisa Miller
118. Ahmed Amar
117. Marianne Taylor
116. Olivia Taylor
115. Dan Mounts
114. Adam Kaufman
113. Martha Logan
112. Alberta Green
111. Evelyn Martin
110. Megan Matheson
109. Paula Schaeffer
108. Janis Gold
107. Anne Packard
106. Alan Wilson
105. Rick Allen
104. Ivan Erwich
103. Richard Walsh
102. Gary Matheson
101. Kayla Hassan
100. Josh Bauer
99. Lynne Kresge
98. Dmitro Gredenko
97. Kyle Singer
96. Claudia Hernandez
95. Reed Pollock
94. Sean Hillinger
93. Tim Woods
92. Lynn McGill
91. Arlo Glass
90. Jamey Farrell
89. Janet York
88. Alan Milliken
87. Graem Bauer
86. Erin Driscoll
85. Behrooz Araz
84. James Prescott
83. Hector Salazar
82. Nadia Yassir
81. Sherry Palmer
80. Kim Bauer
79. Samir Mehran
78. Marie Warner
77. Dina Araz
76. Teri Bauer
75. Roger Stanton
74. Reza Naiyeer
73. Mitch Anderson
72. Bob Warner
71. Andre Drazen
70. Ule Matobo
69. Victor Drazen
68. Navi Araz
67. Carl Webb
66. Noah Daniels
65. Keith Palmer
64. Sergei Bahzaev
63. Cara Bowden
62. Walt Cummings
61. Phillip Bauer
60. Peter Kingsley
59. Yusuf Auda
58. Tarin Faroush
57. Blaine Mayer
56. Mike Doyle
55. Carl Benton
54. Kate Warner
53. Karen Hayes
52. Kevin Carroll
51. Dana Walsh
50. Syed Ali
49. John Keeler
48. Vladimir Bierko
47. Benjamin Juma
46. Yuri Suvarov
45. Ryan Chappelle
44. Milo Pressman
43. James Heller
42. Henry Taylor
41. Brian Hastings
40. Cheng Zhi
39. Michael Amador
38. Chase Edmunds
37. Morris O'Brian
36. Paul Raines
35. Dalia hassan
34. Cole Ortiz
33. Jason Pillar
32. Edgar Stiles
31. Audrey Raines
30. Gael Ortega
29. Ira Gaines
28. Habib Marwan
27. Ike Dubaku
26. Ramon Salazar
25. Omar Hassan
24. Stephen Saunders
23. Mandy
22. Tom Lennox
21. Abu Fayed
20. Chloe O'Brian
19. Allison Taylor
18. Larry Moss
17. Hamri Al-Assad
16. Michelle Dessler
15. George Mason
14. Nina Myers
13. Ethan Kanin
12. Renee Walker
11. Curtis Manning

as usual, don't read this if you haven't seen all 8 seasons and have any plan to.
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Naye745 | Posted 6/2/2010 10:18:07 PM | message detail | filter | #002
man, curtis should still have been around for s7 and 8

wasted potential, he was able to carry action scenes in a way that cole never could
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The Hero Of Time | Posted 6/2/2010 10:20:18 PM | message detail | filter | #003
Considering everything, I'm kinda glad that Curtis died when he did; season 6 would've likely ruined him entirely had he stayed on for longer. Too bad he couldn't pull a Tony, though.
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LiselTestify | Posted 6/2/2010 10:42:28 PM | message detail | filter | #004
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Senjougaharaism | Posted 6/3/2010 7:26:05 AM | message detail | filter | #005
wayne palmer'd
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My Immortal | Posted 6/3/2010 7:26:52 AM | message detail | filter | #006
SenpaiDessus | Posted 6/3/2010 9:45:50 AM | message detail | filter | #007
Considering everything, I'm kinda glad that Curtis died when he did; season 6 would've likely ruined him entirely had he stayed on for longer. Too bad he couldn't pull a Tony, though.

how many established characters did S6 ruin?
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LordEmbok | Posted 6/3/2010 10:27:16 AM | message detail | filter | #008
if curtis hadn't died he would have taken away from either doyle or bill

most likely doyle, which wouldn't have been too bad.
SHINE GET 64 | Posted 6/3/2010 1:14:47 PM | message detail | filter | #009
why am I just learning now that Brian Hastings was Bubba from Forrest Gump

Bubba in charge of CTU oh god
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transience | Posted 6/3/2010 1:17:48 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #010
what

I will have to reconsider his ranking with this new information
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transience | Posted 6/3/2010 1:27:31 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #011
10. Aaron Pierce
Season(s): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Aaron_Pierce

David Palmer: I thought you were under orders not to talk to me.
Aaron Pierce: I'm doing my best, sir.


Aaron Pierce is a bit of a rarity among 24 main cast members: he is simply a good guy. There is no moral compromise with him. He is not a tortured guy, one having to make impossible decisions, or even particularly deep. Aaron simply does the right thing, and in 24, that's unusual.

Aaron's demeanor is unique. He speaks slowly and deeply. He's very respectful. He's calm and very measured. He's good at his job as head of Secret Service. Aaron's other unique trait is how long he managed to survive on the show: until season 8 he made his way into every season. He is rarely a prominent character, but he is a familiar face and one you can trust. It is good to see him on-screen yet again. He's the best kind of recurring character.

Aaron Pierce has a special relationship with one character: David Palmer. It's very clear that Aaron is crazy about David and will do everything to protect him. He will even go against orders if need be to make sure he is okay (or in later cases, brought to justice). That resolve was always admirable, and it makes Aaron Pierce, for lack of a better word, "charming." Because of that, he is super easy to like.

Aaron Pierce developed slowly throughout his 24 tenure: at first he is simply a man protecting David Palmer. He doesn't seem all that important and he isn't a protagonist. In season 2, David confides in him when he's removed from office and he plays a support role, even getting temporarily fired for helping out Palmer. Pierce's role in day 3 is fairly limited, but his relationship with David continues to grow as he does his best to protect him. Day 4 had Keeler aboard Air Force One for most of the day so it wasn't easy to write Aaron in. That said, when Palmer comes back, Aaron is right there to tell him that he's super happy to protect him again.

It's day 5 that gets Aaron this high on the list. Finally, Aaron steps out into the forefront. When the motorcade is attacked, it's Aaron Pierce that saves Martha Logan and the Suvarovs. When Jack is in custody at the Presidential retreat, Pierce lets him go, knowing full well how Bauer served Palmer. When Jack confronts Cummings, Pierce cuts all communication lines and stops Logan from interfering. Later in the day, Aaron works with Wayne to secure the recording.

It's the end of season 5 that's Aaron's standout moment. Aaron is captured and interrogated when Logan comes to see him. Logan offers him a deal - if he agrees not to say anything, he'll be reassigned to another post of his choice, so long as it isn't the White House. It's a good deal for a man that's about to be killed. But not good enough for Aaron. His conviction to do the right thing is far too strong. He does not bend for other people. And so he busts out one of the three greatest lines in the show's history:

"There is nothing that you have said or done that is acceptable to me in the least. You are a traitor to your country and a disgrace to your office. And it's my duty to see that you are brought to justice for what you have done. Is there anything else…Charles?

At that point, I loved Aaron Pierce. What a defiant line. Sure, he sucked in season 6 because he was shackled to Martha Logan's awful personality, and in season 7 he was stuck with Olivia Taylor, but it didn't matter. Aaron Pierce was awesome. Aaron comes through in season 7 as well, contacting Ethan and working with him to take down Olivia. It's too bad he was in season 8, though his appearances were wearing a little thin so I didn't mind the streak ending. There's only so many ways you can write him into the show. Most other characters would have been killed 2 or 3 seasons ago. I'm just glad he's still alive and presumably living happily.
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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 6/3/2010 1:31:17 PM | message detail | filter | #012
I had heard he was in season 8, but it was cut before airing. He was supposed to be with Taylor when she came to CTU to talk to Jack and he's seen shaking her hand
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 6/3/2010 1:33:19 PM | message detail | filter | #013
. And so he busts out one of the three greatest lines in the show's history:

predix: 'protecting me from what' and a jack quote... too many good ones to predict the jack quote

perfect pierce writeup, wouldn't change a thing about it
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PLAYlNGTHEGAME | Posted 6/3/2010 3:01:50 PM | message detail | filter | #014
other one has to be THAT'S JACK BAUER
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GeneralKenobi85 | Posted 6/3/2010 3:11:01 PM | message detail | filter | #015
As much as I missed him in Season 8, I think you're right. I don't know how they could have fit him in there.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2010 3:20:35 PM | message detail | filter | #016
They could have made him the mastermind behind the entire series' events.
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My Immortal | Posted 6/3/2010 3:21:37 PM | message detail | filter | #017
Last scene after Jack runs away: Aaron Pierce and Mandy talking about how everything went according to plan and then cackling.
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LordoftheMorons | Posted 6/3/2010 3:26:03 PM | message detail | filter | #018
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 6/3/2010 4:59:27 PM | message detail | filter | #019
That Aaron Pierce line might be my favorite in 24 history.
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FFDragon | Posted 6/3/2010 5:16:53 PM | message detail | filter | #020
Best part is it was ad-libbed.
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transients (tc) | Posted 6/3/2010 7:31:29 PM | message detail | filter | #021
alright here goes

9. Wayne Palmer
Season(s): 3, 5, 6
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Wayne_Palmer

"These are the people who killed my brother, Jack. They shot a bullet right through his neck, and then he died in my arms. Put yourself in my position. Could you just walk away?"

Wayne Palmer's 24 career didn't start so great: he is a large part of the day 3 nonsense that swirls around David Palmer. His actions probably lead to David Palmer's resignation: Sherry Palmer is indirectly dead because of him, as are both of the Millikens. Wayne is a good character who has David's best interests in mind at all times, but he got written into some really stupid plotlines. I don't blame the character here, but it's tough to really embrace him when all sorts of stupid crap happens involving you. Stupid 24 writers.

Wayne gets better when season 5 rolls around. Wayne is determined to find out who assassinated his brother. He works with Aaron Pierce and Jack Bauer -- good company to keep -- to hunt down Henderson. Wayne is driven by revenge: he will find out who did this to his beloved brother and bring them to justice at any cost.

The Jack/Wayne tag team is great. Wayne is not a trained combat agent and he knows it. Wayne needs Jack's help -- Wayne being the guy who talked David into trying to shoot down Jack's chopper in season 3. Now he's seeing the other side and seeing what Jack has to do to bring people to justice. When Wayne has to kill a man, he hesitates, takes a deep breath and does what he needs to do.

All that said, Wayne is only a mid-tier character through season 5. It's season 6 -- the bastard season -- that solidifies Wayne as being awesome. President Wayne Palmer has a very difficult day ahead of him -- the country is being attacked mercilessly and he has to give up Jack Bauer (the guy who saved his life and brought David Palmer's killers to justice) for dead in order to stop it, and even that doesn't work. He has to deal with infighting with his cabinet and pressure to retaliate for the nuke from everywhere. It's a lot like David Palmer in season 2, with one key difference: he's been in the mud with Jack before. He knows what Jack has to do. He trusts Jack more than any other president does.

After the attack on Wayne's life, he's woken up from a coma to stop a nuclear strike from happening. For the next 5-6 hours, Wayne is absolutely must-see TV. You're waiting for him to collapse at any minute. You know he's going to, it's just a matter of when. He can barely walk. The episode where he fights off a challenge from Noah Daniels is fantastic. Wayne asking for Noah's resignation is also great. Wayne makes the middle episodes of the season pretty good -- season 6 is kind of a mess but Wayne makes it worth watching. Wayne beating Noah and then launching the fake nuke anyway was a great twist.

Wayne's best moment is his conversation with Jack after he's captured by CTU. Jack tries to convince Wayne that he should be allowed to exchange the FB subcircuit board for Audrey Raines's life. Wayne is skeptical, but this is Jack Bauer. Jack Bauer has saved Wayne's ass before and both of them know it. Jack delivers another of the three best lines in 24 history:

"Mr. President, you owe me."

Truer words have not been spoken. Wayne can feel how strong those words are and cannot turn him down. For once, Jack Bauer has asked for something and it would be a sin for him to grant him that.

I don't think Wayne Palmer is a great president. He comes to decisions slowly and the idea of letting Jack do what he's asking is just insane. I think that imperfection makes him a better character though, one you can relate to. I also like his demeanor a lot. Wayne Palmer is awesome.


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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2010 7:35:29 PM | message detail | filter | #022
FFDragon | Posted 6/3/2010 7:36:15 PM | message detail | filter | #023
It seems you like Jack's relation with Wayne more than you like Wayne himself. Which I credit to Jack mostly, which is why I see Wayne as nothing more than mid-tier.
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transients (tc) | Posted 6/3/2010 7:38:35 PM | message detail | filter | #024
mmm, yes and no. Jack and Wayne are tight and that's good, but that stretch of episodes where he's owning Noah and struggling to stay on his feet in the wake of a natural disaster are amazing to me.

I guess you could say that he's my version of George Mason.
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FFDragon | Posted 6/3/2010 7:43:04 PM | message detail | filter | #025
Fair enough, your list.

Mason went out with one of the biggest bangs on the show though, Wayne went out with a whimper and got the Keeler treatment of never being spoken of again.
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transients (tc) | Posted 6/3/2010 7:44:40 PM | message detail | filter | #026
yeah, but Wayne was heroic in his own way, stopping a nuclear strike and continuing going at the clear risk of his own life. maybe he didn't bleed through his clothes and blow himself up but I wouldn't hold that against him.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 6/3/2010 7:56:04 PM | message detail | filter | #027
wayne is overhated; i disagree with a lot of the placements on your list and wayne is probably a lil' too high here, but he's definitely a high-ranker - probably in the 20-40 range for me

mike novick and christopher henderson on the other hand man they just do not belong
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 6/3/2010 7:57:50 PM | message detail | filter | #028
Yay Aaron

I like Wayne, screw the stupid as hell plotlines, I liked him in em.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 6/3/2010 7:58:41 PM | message detail | filter | #029
yeah also wayne is solid in S3, too

i didn't like him much but he always made the right call. dude was more loyal than novick and smarter than david.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2010 7:59:46 PM | message detail | filter | #030
tran has always been a Henderson fanboy.
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FFDragon | Posted 6/3/2010 8:00:51 PM | message detail | filter | #031
That last part isn't a poke at Wayne so much as a poke at 24 as a whole. They spend so much time building up these characters just to causally toss them away with no closure. Perhaps it was just to leave the door open for a Wayne return at some point later down the line, but who knows.
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GreatWallofUK | Posted 6/3/2010 8:03:33 PM | message detail | filter | #032
Look I agree Mike does not belong. Dude is barely top 50, but Henderson absolutely belongs, we should still not see him for a while
transients (tc) | Posted 6/3/2010 10:11:03 PM | message detail | filter | #033
8. Mike Novick
Season(s): 1, 2, 4, 5
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Mike_Novick

"Whatever didn't happen, just make sure it doesn't happen again."

Mike is the original "advisor" type character, and he's the best one. Mike loves the political "game" and knows exactly how to play it. He understands situations and personnel and usually comes to the correct conclusion. If Mike is on your side, you're assured to be in good hands. Of course, if he *isn't* on your side, good luck, because Mike will drop you at the blink of an eye if he feels that it's warranted.

Novick's main tie is to David Palmer and he has great respect for the man, even when he's betraying him in season 2. When Novick gets Logan's permission to call him in season 4, he's legitimately excited. When Palmer is assassinated, Mike is crushed.

Novick's best moments are when he's being sneaky. When Lynne tries to point him out as the cause of her accident, Mike awesomely covers her hand and says it'll be alright. When Novick overhears Aaron and Martha being a little bit too intimate, Mike busts out a great oneliner (see above). Novick has lots of little moments like this and they're all really good.

But my favourite thing about him are the faces that he makes. When Palmer dumps him in season 2, his face is so unbelievably crushed. When he overhears Cummings plotting to assassinate Jack Bauer, his sneaky peer from around the corner is hilariously awesome. And when Logan is busted in season 5, Mike's huge "OWNED" grin makes the scene. I love his actor. He plays the character's sneaky side just right.

Novick is really easy to like. Despite not always being on your side, he's still a cool character. Even when he's plotting against Palmer and being antagonistic, he's still super likable. I love this guy. I definitely missed him in season 6 when everyone else is messing things up. Kanin is a good replacement for him, but Novick will always be the best of his kind.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2010 10:16:03 PM | message detail | filter | #034
I can't believe Hodges is this high.

I think it's awesome, but I never thought you were Top 10 into him.


Also Mike is great. Shame we never got to see him again after 5.
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FFDragon | Posted 6/3/2010 10:17:39 PM | message detail | filter | #035
I like Mike. Maybe not top 10 like, but I agree with that writeup.
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The Hero Of Time | Posted 6/3/2010 10:19:29 PM | message detail | filter | #036
Mike Novick is awesome, pure and simple. I never understood why his actor was never listed as a member of the main cast when he clearly deserved it more than half the people who did get it (I'm looking at you, Sandra Palmer!)
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Naye745 | Posted 6/3/2010 11:15:26 PM | message detail | filter | #037
I like Mike. Maybe not top 10 like, but I agree with that writeup.

good call here

this also goes for wayne for me; about 21-35 range characters but i like them for the same reasons you've said
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GeneralKenobi85 | Posted 6/3/2010 11:18:05 PM | message detail | filter | #038
Mike was definitely one of my favorites.
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LOLContests | Posted 6/3/2010 11:30:24 PM | message detail | filter | #039
Novick's a great character, although it bugged me that we're supposed to see him as heroic in Season 5, with all of his sliminess brushed under the rug.
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transience | Posted 6/4/2010 8:08:55 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #040
7. Jonas Hodges
Season(s): 7
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Jonas_Hodges

"Wake up our colleagues and have them assembled in one hour. And tell them to pack their pajamas and their toothbrushes. It's gonna be a long night."

Jonas Hodges is one of a kind. He is a walking quote machine. He's got incredible amounts of style. He is a hopeless narcissist. And he's pretty much unlike any other villain in 24 history.

"Starkwood is not in the business of political assassination, Doug. But maybe we should look into it, I hear it's a growth market."

I'm not entirely sure why Hodges is doing what he's doing. Hodges uses his company's money and resources to acquire a bioweapon so he blackmail the government into making Starkwood a "fifth branch of the government". The US government had been tightening its grip on the private military contractor and Hodges saw this as unacceptable. Hodges then walks straight into the White House and makes demands to President Taylor herself. Say what you will about Hodges, but the dude's got balls.

President Allison Taylor: Jonas, I agreed to this meeting because I wanted to hear what you had to say. But what you're proposing is blackmail.
Jonas Hodges: Well that's putting it in the worst possible light.


But forget Hodges's motives, they're secondary to his actions. Our first real glimpse of Hodges is when Bauer is on his way to interrogate Ryan Burnett, Senator Mayer's chief of staff and a man with knowledge of Hodges's plan. His right hand man Greg Seaton sends a killer agent named John Quinn to take care of Burnett and Bauer. Hodges's response sets the tone for the kind of guy Hodges is:

"Oh. Quinn's good. Bauer's good too."

Hodges cares more about having fun and seeing how things play out than any kind of grand goal. He appreciates good men who do good work, even if they're not on his side. Hodges then talks to Starkwood's board of directors, telling them to ignore any requests from the government. When Chairman Doug Knowles questions him, Hodges reprimands him and later beats him to death with a glass bottle, throwing him over the ledge. Hodges then calmly tries to clean the blood off his shirt. Can't have a man of style look bad, after all.

"They're six year olds, Greg. And they need to eat their carrots."

Hodges later develops a killer plan to throw the FBI off his path: he and Seaton have a scripted conversation to convince Tony that Seaton's on his side. Seaton leads him to the bioweapon only to find out that it's not there. Hodges confronts the FBI and tells them to get off their property or they will open fire. It's a great plan by a great villain to buy some time.

"Mr. Seaton, I get no pleasure from the knowledge that people will die at our hands. One single soul, the loss of one soul is tragic to me, let alone the numbers we're talking about. But do not forget that every war worth fighting involves collateral damage. And what we're doing is fundamentally and absolutely necessary."
transience | Posted 6/4/2010 8:09:27 AM | message detail | delete | filter | #041
Even after Hodges is arrested, he still retains his flamboyant flair. After being arrested, he asks an officer to let him have his gun so he can shoot himself. I have absolutely no doubt that he would have done it too to protect his family. Hodges wasn't really a terrorist in the traditional sense of the word. He was just misguided and used extreme means to achieve his ambitions. Hodges is so narcissistic that the very idea of changing his name is akin to dying. Hodges built Starkwood from scratch and to have to lose his notoriety is just awful to him.

Jonas Hodges: Robert Tippet. That's my new name?
Sullivan: Yes sir.
Jonas Hodges: Sounds like a dog breed.


The only thing that stops Hodges from being the best villain in 24 history is the way he goes out. Hodges is a final villain, not a mid-boss. He had the US at its mercy and had a style well beyond somebody who would die in the middle of the season. Before you know it, Hodges is out of play, Cara Bowden tells him to kill himself and then Olivia Taylor of all people has him killed. It's really a sad way for a crazy villain like him to go. I would have rather had that be the end of the season. The Group that followed him kinda sucked. The arc following Hodges in season 7 was not good at all, not until the end when Tony and Wilson go face to face.

"I can smell attitude, son. And you're giving it off pretty thick. I've lost everything: my company, my family, and most importantly my name. Do you know how much blood and sweat went into making that name mean something?"

Hodges was great. Short-lived, but great.
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htaeD | Posted 6/4/2010 8:16:51 AM | message detail | filter | #042
aw yeah season 5 villainy ftw
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/4/2010 9:00:24 AM | message detail | filter | #043
Hodges quotes top tier
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Senjougaharaism | Posted 6/4/2010 12:00:39 PM | message detail | filter | #044
I actually completely forgot that wayne ended up collapsing near the end of S6. lawl

novick at 8 seems pretty good to me, hodges might be a little too high but as far as quote machines go he's at least top 5 so him being here is acceptable
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FFDragon | Posted 6/4/2010 12:10:16 PM | message detail | filter | #045
Let's play some darts.
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SenpaiDessus | Posted 6/4/2010 12:11:52 PM | message detail | filter | #046
not enough discussion of redemption hodges

he has the ****ing son of the president killed
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transience | Posted 6/4/2010 12:21:35 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #047
yeah but Hodges was barely involved. that's like giving Alan Wilson credit for the Palmer hit or something
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GreatWallofUK | Posted 6/4/2010 12:23:22 PM | message detail | filter | #048
Prediction time


6 Bill
5 Henderson
4 Palmer
3 Tony
2 Logan
1 It better be him.
earth angel | Posted 6/4/2010 12:34:47 PM | message detail | filter | #049
Sherry Palmer is WAY too many spots too high. Should be 125 IMO (note, only through season 3.) Julia was terrible, but we only had to put up with her for half to 3/4th of a season.
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transience | Posted 6/4/2010 1:01:27 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #050
6. Charles Logan
Season(s): 4, 5, 6, 8
Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Charles_Logan

"You blow up like this one more time, I will fill you so full of drugs you won't even know your own name. And then I will ship you off to an asylum and you can stay there for the rest of your life. Are we clear? Are we clear?!"

I'll cut to the chase: I always thought this guy was overrated. Season 4 Logan is a sniveling coward who deflects every problem and grabs every positive headline. He is easy to manipulate by playing to his legacy. I don't think he was complicit with day 4's attacks - he's far too incompetent for that.

Season 5 Logan has a great reveal, but he's somewhat difficult to like. He's obnoxious before the reveal and after it, he only has one great scene - the one where Heller comes to talk him into resigning and he holds him off just long enough. The Logan-Jack stuff at the end of s5 is pretty unsatisfying and he's ultimately beaten by Martha Logan of all people. He's even told to kill himself by an outside guy. Logan never seems like he's in control, nor does he have any good villainous scenes. Those are all left to Christopher Henderson.

Season 6 is where Logan starts to turn around. Logan picks up where the Bauer plotline leaves off, and that's enough to make him seem amazing. Bearded Logan looking for redemption was a great arc. I never believed him for a second. I thought that god was his way of getting back in the political game and being important again. Logan needs to feel important more than anything else. It's like he was saying "please god, lead me back into power." Logan craves power more than anything. He's fairly awesome until Martha Logan prematurely ends his redemption by stabbing him. That's such an awful scene. I hate her for that alone.

But then Season 8 happens and Logan just jumps a mile. Season 8 Logan is by far the star of the season - moreso than Jack, Chloe, Cole or Hassan. He crushes Novakovich, plays Taylor so freaking bad, and even gets Ethan Kanin to resign. Logan gets the credit and the seat at the table that he so desperately needs. His fistpump when he heard his name is fantastic. I like Logan a hell of a lot more once he's busted. Now he doesn't have to be sneaky and can just be a slimy lying douche out in the open. He's much better that way.

One thing that makes Logan great is his actor. Gregory Itzin nails this dodgy character, especially with his facial expressions. Logan's face always betrays him and Itzin plays it perfectly. I can't take my eyes off of him in scenes. He might be the best acted character in the history of the show. Logan isn't always the most likable guy but damn, the guy is great to watch.
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