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transience ranks every notable character from "24" -- the top 10. (spoilers)
S4 and S5 spent a lot of time trying to 'shed' what S3 couldn't tie up, though. Definitely. It's still one series, and things bleed over of course. But overall, many of the character returns for seasons 4 and 5 felt more like cameos or felt more like subplots outside the main developments. Didn't they also plan on killing Tony alongside Michelle but they didn't do it because they didn't think fans could take all 3 dying before the first commercial? --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
i
think carlos bernard wanted off the show, but the writers wanted him
around in case they pursued a path with him, so they disabled him for
most of the season before killing him. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
From: SenpaiDessus | #150 Wait, huh? Season 4 was the consensus (though I disagree myself) worst season before 6 came along. Season 1 is always top 3, and usually top 2. 1=5 8 7 3 4 2 6 2-4 can go just about any order, though I usually prefer 3 just because of the enemies. Though it has some of the worst sub plots ever. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
2 is my favorite but I'm just a crazy person. --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
No
other season has a tone like season 1, which makes sense, the pivotal
moment of the whole series is the very end of season 1, and it changes
the show forever. In season 1 everyone is human, including Jack Bauer
(the dude eats and sleeps) that all dies at the same time as Terri,
from season 2 on the show is no longer about a pretty talented
everyman....the show becomes about watching a virtual deity. Agreed, which is why S1 is my favorite. Season 1 was 24 as opposed to 2-8 being the Jack Bauer Power Hour. Doesn't mean 2-8 weren't extremely fun though, it's just that s1 felt like the "masterpiece" season. --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
2 is my favorite but I'm just a crazy person. You're not crazy, 2 is definitely top tier. 1 > 2 > 5 > 8 > 7 > 3 > 4 > 6 --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
2 is pretty much the only time 24 did the WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE plot with class and dignity. And it was brilliant. --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
I'm wrong, the virus was also handled very well. --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
From: The Beginning | #158 I disagree. The first 4 episodes of 6 (before the nuke actually went off) did this to an amazing extent. It was every thing AFTER we are all gonna die, that sucked. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
1 and 2 both suffered from DAT LULL after their first climaxes. 1 has the advantage because its finale is so much better. 3 was an up and down ride the whole way through. 4 maintained a constant clip, upping it to extreme when necessary but never grinding to a halt. 5 was on the pedal for the entire season, and it almost never missed a beat. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
"I'm gonna need a hacksaw." --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9DijlVkIGA --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
1 and 2 both suffered from DAT LULL after their first climaxes. Yeah, the only problem though with 1 post rescue is the writers had no idea what to do with Kim and Teri for the rest of the day so they got bad storylines for the most part. Kim until she gets rekimnapped and Teri basically until she dies. I still found Jack and Palmer extremely compelling in the early afternoon, especially their first meeting. --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
jack
and palmer's meeting was great, but you can't honestly point to the
meeting with the dude who goes WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR ACCENT and tell me
that's particularly good. also the keith subplot was 'bleh.' that video made me sad because it's incredible how young jack used to be. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
I actually liked that episode x_x But yeah, I can definitely see why people wouldn't like it ha. It's definitely not the best, but pretty good for Jack's weakest plot of the season. And in the long run it provided a needed link to the prison. --- "O, Lord, give me health and strength. We'll steal the rest." |
Did you know Tony is old as ****? Seriously, he's almost 48. --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
I
always thought WHERE IS THE VIRUS would always be the best 24 line, but
THAT'S JACK BAUER eventually supplanted it for me. By itself, it's
merely amazing, but it's that Logan is the only person who goes up
against Jack Bauer and realizes just how screwed he is. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 |
the part i liked best about the afternoon of S1 was the fact that tony almeida gets to shout GET IN THE CAR at teri --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZKr4YU2hE&feature=related --- TheRock ~ HERE'S MY SUNDAY BEST! Board 8 Late Night Crew |
I
actually have a really hard time remembering what happened during most
of the seasons of 24, especially the middle ones. I do remember season
6 sucking, though. --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
season
1's first half is undeniably the tightest, but it goes off the rails
for a while after Teri and Kim are rescued. episodes 14-20 are hit and
miss with some missing badly. (lookin' at you, 17 and 18). I think
season 5 is actually the tightest given that there's no wasted plots
and a tight narrative. season 2's got the Kim stuff, 3's got the Palmer stuff, 4's all over the place and 6 is lol. 8's got the Dana Walsh crap and the opening half of it lulls, so it's not the greatest plotwise. 7 is actually a pretty tight season until the final arc where the show kinda goes off the rails. in conclusion, every season has its own problems. even season 5's got Lynn McGill's stupid sister. the death that hit me the hardest was Edgar, but that was because I just wasn't ready for it. season 5 was the first season I watched live and it was the first to really sink in. I had to pace for a long time before doing anything else. Bill was the one I was the most depressed about, but the silence and Chloe's face in season 5 were brutal. Teri's never really did too much for me. ranking the deaths: 1. Bill 2. Edgar 3. Paul 4. Hassan 5. Mason --- xyzzy |
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seasons,
being as objective as possible: 5 > 1 > 3 >> 7 > 8 >
2 = 4 >>>>>> 6. i think 3 is underrated hard,
everyone just remembers the hotel and laughing at everyone from mexico,
but it was a great one and it benefits heavily from a rewatch. now lets go top two writeups --- Jays: 29-22 / TFC: 5-4-1, NCC champs! / Leafs / Raptors SS - 3052 0230 3247 | Platinum (legalhacks) - 0775 7164 7136 |
even season 5's got Lynn McGill's stupid sister. haha, i actually liked that plot but only because it ended with her disappearing for like 2 hours then showing up again at the end of an episode tied up in a chair with a guy about to shoot her in the face --- it's an underwater adventure ride |
I didn't even know I liked edgar as much as I did until he died, that was an amazing scene. --- DON~! |
haha, i actually liked that plot but only because it ended with her disappearing for like 2 hours then showing up again at the end of an episode tied up in a chair with a guy about to shoot her in the face yeah, and it was directly tied with the CTU hit. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
top 2 coming tomorrow - weekends are tough timewise --- xyzzy |
Dang. The last topic purged before I finished reading it (missed Renee). Bill is awesome. I cried when he died. (I've only cried two times when watching 24 - there, and the end of the finale episode) --- I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I? |
I've got it archived, don't worry. I'll upload them all when I finish this topic up. so I'm watching season 3 with my fiance last night and have this conversation: me: "would you trust a man that was fighting heroin withdrawl and hadn't slept in over 24 hours to axe off your hand?" her: "if it was Jack Bauer? of course! if it was Jack Bauer I'd let him deliver my baby." me: "with what?" her: "with an axe!" I think she likes Jack Bauer. anyway, time to do 2 and 1 --- xyzzy |
2. Jack Bauer Season(s): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Bauer "I have killed two people since midnight. I have not slept in over 24 hours. So maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are now!" Jack Bauer probably has 50 hours of on-screen time so it's tough to even know where to begin with him. Bauer is some kind of weird combination of action hero, super dork and MacGyver. When he starts day 1, he's a happy, functioning person with morals that functions within the parameters of the real world; by the end of day 8 he murders a dozen people by himself after being stabbed with a knife. Jack Bauer has transitioned from a top-tier government agent to unkillable demigod. In season 1, Jack needs like 20-30 minutes in order to hold off 2 or 3 men shooting at him and Richard Walsh. by season 8 he's able to use specific keywords to trigger CTU responses so he could draw Logan's men into the open and kill them. By the end of 24, Jack is just writing the rules of how other people are going to behave. He's that broken. Bauer is the smartest guy on 24 and always makes the right move. He's got more protagonist hax than anyone that has ever lived. He should have died god knows how many times. Jack's heart stops in season 2 and he's right back to killing people the next hour. Jack suffers from a heroin addiction that he kicks in eight hours. Jack is tortured for two years in China and is a completely broken man, yet still manages to kill 50 people in 24 hours. In season 7, Jack is minutes away from dying from a bioweapon and still gets saved. This man just can not die. If you cut off his head, another one will grow back. And yet it's his personal story that compels me more than just his action prowess. Jack is a cursed human being that's trying his best to make impossible decisions. It's tough to fault much of what Jack does, but yet you know that he's never going to be the same. He's asked to torture terrosists. He's asked to execute his own agents. He's asked to kidnap family members and use them against terrorists if need be. He has to interrogate innocents in order to get what he needs. He's lost his wife, nearly lost his only daughter, his longtime girlfriend ended up scarred for life thanks to being tortured and Renee Walker was shot and killed minutes after they hooked up. Jack Bauer has no luck and yet he keeps on going. His insides must be a complete wreck. Jack's human side always resonates with me. Yeah, he guts people and starts riots and punches women and does whatever he needs to do, but he can also emote and come back to reality. He's not so grizzled that he doesn't care - he definitely cares, he just has no choice but to block everything out and keep going. Kiefer does a great job with Jack. The faces that he makes convey so much personality. Jack's face has this way of breaking when he needs to be emotional and he uses this soft voice that I love. I love this character. My favourite Jack interrogation is the Joe Prado one, where he resigns from CTU to take him on as a citizen and breaks him within seconds. I have a lot of favourite Jack quotes -- "Mr. President, you owe me." is #1, but there's several others that I like. |
"This will help you with the pain." "Mr. President, it's been an honour." "You were responsible for the deaths of David Palmer, Tony Almeida, and Michelle Dessler. They were friends of mine." "Do you understand the difference between dying for something and dying for nothing? The only reason I fought so hard to stay alive in China was because I didn't want to die for nothing...today I can die for something." "Say hello to your brother." "You do not tell me what to do anymore! Do you understand me? YOU do not tell me what to do. I just watched my father die, and I felt nothing. You know why? Yeah, you know why. Because that man was dead to me years ago. I admired you. I looked up to you like a father. You were the type of man I wanted to be, and you took advantage of it. Earlier today... you said that I was cursed. That anything I touched.... ended up dead or ruined. How dare you. How... dare you. The only thing I did, the only thing I have EVER done is what you and people like you have asked of me." Jack Bauer is great. 24 does not exist without him. The very idea of taking any other character in history and plugging him into Jack Bauer's role does not make sense to me. Even the name -- Jack Bauer -- sounds like a hero's name. The very concept of 24 is over the top and ridiculous. It needs a main character that can convince you he can do all these things. This is no easy task, but Jack Bauer makes it work. Because he's Jack Bauer. --- xyzzy |
Aw sheeeeeeeeet! --- "Saving you and your people... can't really say that's our primary objective." FRODOLINKSAMUSMASTER *has a P.H.D. in horribleness* |
oh geez, does your fiance hate you now wait I should have totally had ore wa jack bauer playing while I was reading that write up, augh --- DON~! |
palmer being #1 somehow explains why you had Wayne so high I guess we can never accuse you of being a racist --- http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4377/feelsgoodmanf.png http://card.mmos.com/psn/profile/ca/p/CaptainRockman/card.png |
1. David Palmer Season(s): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Bio: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/David_Palmer "Take a good look. Do I seem scared? Am I breaking into a nervous sweat? Am I babbling? At a loss for words? Is my voice shaking? David Palmer had me at hello. He has a presence to him that no other character can match or even come close to. He dominates a room just by being there. Other characters have charisma but David Palmer breaks the scale. David Palmer is a strong man who always strives to do the right thing. Day 1 is basically an exercise in finding out who he is. David has to deal with several attempts on his life, reporters digging up the past on him and his wife scheming against his best wishes, and yet David comes out on the right side every time. In day 2, David is under extraordinary pressure to respond to the nuke with the military and he fights it admirably. In day 3, David finally lets his moral compass waver just a little bit and the result is him resigning from the presidential race. Day 1 is incredibly good because of Palmer. Season 1 Palmer is my favourite single-season character in 24's history. It starts with a simple scene in a parking garage. Palmer goes out to see Carl and is confronted by some punk kids that recognize him. They stand there with a baseball bat and ask him what he's going to do for them. The easy thing to do here is to tell them what they want to hear, but no, David wouldn't stand for that. David then catches a baseball bat with his hand and tells them that they need to stop asking others for answers or they'll be dead in five years. It's a killer scene that defines who David is. Palmer, if nothing else, has balls. When there's a threat on his life, David goes through with the early morning breakfast anyway. When Jack's daughter is kidnapped, David agrees to play dead to buy Jack some time at the cost of his own campaign. How good is season 1 David? One of my five favourite moments from the season is nothing more than David Palmer walking into CTU and demanding to speak with Jack. Episode 15 is awesome just because Bauer and Palmer can share a scene together. It does not happen often; Bauer seems him quickly at the end of season 1, but really, this is their only on-screen meeting. And it's awesome. Day 2 isn't *as* good, but Palmer still shines brightly. His speech when he's about to be relieved of his duty is a killer scene; the end of season 2 is pretty disjointed but Palmer makes it work because he's that good. Palmer walks more of a gray line in season 2 thanks to torturing Stanton and allying himself with Sherry, but he takes the necessary steps to keep the nation from being nuked. Sometimes you have to take extreme measures to uphold your principles. When David Palmer answers the phone in day 4, I get super excited. Just seeing his black hand grab that telephone makes the season that much better. I will always value the end of season 4 more than I should because it has an all-star cast: Jack, Palmer, Chloe, Tony, Michelle, Bill and Novick all working together. There's even Logan but he's still a complete tool. The stars never aligned like that again. Palmer's day 4 is somewhat of a cameo but his character is good enough to make you forget that -- we're just happy to have David Palmer back. His conversation at the end of day 4 with Jack is perfect. "This is probably the last time we'll ever speak. Jack, you do understand, when you hang up, for all intents and purposes, Jack Bauer's dead. I understand that, sir. Mr. President, it's been an honor." The next time we see him, David Palmer is dead, shot through the heart. It was a necessary step for the show to take, but it's heartbreaking nonetheless. A man of David's stature should never be killed. He's just too good to be shot. 24 still hasn't recovered from his loss, honestly. Season 5 worked because it was about David. Everything afterwards suffered. You can't replace David Palmer. |
unsurprising yet surprising half your jack quote list is from S6 btw, thought i'd point that out! --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
well,
earlier Jack had other people to talk to whereas he becomes more of a
oneliner machine later. that's just the evolution of 24. most early
season jack quotes are full conversations. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
oh yeah, meant to rank the jacks: s5 > s4 > s2 > s1 > s6 > s8 > s3 > s7 --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
shot through the heart. he was shot in the neck some palmer fanboy you are --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2cgh5cj.jpg |
yeah I knew that whoops --- xyzzy |
poetic license, kleenex for all the great parts of S4, i don't think jack himself was particularly interesting that season. a lot of stuff happens to him for sure, and he does a lot of stuff, but for me, not his most compelling moment. S4 i'd have down with S7, and S8 i'd have up top. --- Gandhi loved you, and look what happened to Gandhi. |
s4
is the first season that 24 was truly the Jack Bauer Show, and I think
that change was novel at first. Bauer has so many great scenes in s4. I expect others to like s8 Jack more than I do - I was fairly vocal in being a little skeptical of where they were going with Bauer's character throughout that murder streak and the sudden obsession with Renee. --- xyzzy |
I actually rather see s8 jack as the jack that finally snapped after a lot of years. Renee was just the final straw --- http://img.imgcake.com/hhgifry.gif |
here's some tertiary characters I rather liked -- Alexis Drazen (season 1) - maybe the most interesting Drazen based on his very limited amount of scenes. he blows up a building and casually kills Kevin Carroll. he's got more style than the rest of the Drazens combined. then he gets written into a crappy subplot with Palmer staff member Elizabeth Nash and ends up dying with no real purpose other than to trade for Bauer. ah well, not a big loss. Kalil Hasan (season 4) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Kalil_Hasan - the terrorist that captures Andrew Paige and kills Ronnie Lobell. Jack trails this guy for over an hour and holds up a gas station to keep him preoccupied. when Hasan finally catches on, he kills himself by driving into oncoming traffic. as a villain he's pretty good, too bad he got relegated to a bit role. David Emerson (season 7) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/David_Emerson - the guy who brought Tony back to life. Tony really liked the guy and felt bad about double crossing him, but he was in the way of Tony's path to get to Wilson so oh well. Emerson was damn likable and it was too bad he died so quickly. Jim Ricker (season 8) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Jim_Ricker - a random guy thrown into the plot because Jack needed *some* kind of tactical support, Ricker never has a bad scene and does great work helping Jack take out Pillar's men in the Meredith Reed incident. he's definitely likable. Carl Mossman (season 5) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Carl_Mossman - better known as the bank guy that lets Jack and Wayne get to the recording. Jack ties up his wife and forces him to go to the bank. Carl ends up recognizing Wayne and helps them out, only to end up dead. I always felt bad for him as he seemed like a good guy. I feel even worse for his wife - all alone, tied up with a dead husband. Robert Ellis (season 1) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Ellis - a rogue NSA agent, I like this guy mostly because he's involved in the awesome episode where Jack and Palmer work together at CTU. Ellis ends up dead by the end of the episode but he's memorable if only for bringing the Operation Nightfall plot arc into focus. Anton Beresch (season 5) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Anton_Beresch - the crazy-ass terrorist that takes over the airport. Beresch has no problem randomly shooting hostages on national tv. his craziness made him way more threatening and interesting than the vanilla Ivan Erwich. John Quinn (season 7) - http://24.wikia.com/wiki/John_Quinn - for a two episode villain he was damn memorable. he kills Ryan Burnett, frames Jack Bauer for it and then kills Senator Mayer an episode later. Jack ends up killing him after busting out a damn bulldozer or whatever that was. it took a bulldozer to kill this guy. impressive. --- xyzzy |
funnily enough, Quinn was in Redemption too --- FC 1849 0634 8041 Boring sig is boring |
