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Time to keep playing through Shadow Hearts because it's so awesome. (Part 2!)
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 12:56:53 AM | message detail | #201 |
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Please don't say SH1 is better, please don't say SH1 is better, please don't say SH1 is better... --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| Drakeryn | Posted 5/7/2007 12:58:24 AM | message detail | #202 |
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1. SH1 2. SH2 --- I don't need to do a better job. I need better P.R. on the job I do. - Calvin |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 12:58:45 AM | message detail | #203 |
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AUGH --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| jlh28532 | Posted 5/7/2007 12:59:28 AM | message detail | #204 |
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There is a quest where you can actually kill the masks but that is going to get you the good ending. Also the maks' zombie forms have 1 HP but give 20 of EACH soul. Also get the Graveyard stone (aka level 3 souls) --- Diamond WIFI code: 1203-5713-9413 Wi-Fi record: 3-1 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:04:37 AM | message detail | #205 |
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Hm. So far, I'm still in the camp that likes Covenant more. I can see where you were coming from before where you said the story was "tighter" in SH1. It's told a bit better, I think, but that may be me not playing them in order. That said, I liked Covenant's "All Yuri, all the time" bit, just because he's far and away my favorite character from the series. There is an advantage SH1 has thanks to that, though, and that's producing an overall better cast. Yuri is Yuri, Alice is much better than Karin (and I liked Karin), Zhuzhen is better than Gepetto, and so on. Not really sure if there's any point where SH2 actually wins in characters, either; they're just done much better here. I'm not sure there's too much about the game that I really dislike so far. The battle system is really simple, and battles seem to take quite a while, but they're enjoyable and never really get dull. I suppose one complaint might be that there hasn't been any stand out dungeons. They all get the job done, and are short, sweet, and simple, but there were a couple of areas in Covenant that impressed me quite a bit. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:05:31 AM | message detail | #206 |
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oh, and having played some of it thus far, do you regret playing 2 first? Very much. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:06:43 AM | message detail | #207 |
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Not really sure if there's any point where SH2 actually wins in characters Anastasia !! --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:07:36 AM | message detail | #208 |
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There is a quest where you can actually kill the masks but that is going to get you the good ending. Yeah. Definitely don't want any part of that the first time through. The bad ending in SH1, just from what I've gathered in SH2, seems incredible, so I need see that first. :P --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:09:07 AM | message detail | #209 |
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If we're going to map them to thier SH2 counterparts though, SH1 overall has a better cast. SH2 Yuri > SH1 Yuri Alice > Karin Zhuzhen > Gepetto Margarette > Lucia Keith > Joachim Anastasia > Halley Anyone is better than Halley. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:10:40 AM | message detail | #210 |
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augh anastasia fail --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:13:21 AM | message detail | #211 |
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Yeah. That seems about right. I was trying to figure out who to match Margarete up with, because Lucia is just that forgettable.. SH1 Yuri and SH2 Yuri... that's so close. I dunno how I go with that one. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 1:13:56 AM | message detail | #212 |
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you can kill the masks, so long as you don't examine the small
gravestone at the perfect time in the graveyard. basically, you have to
try really hard to get the good ending. it's really frustrating to
people who don't know exactly how to trigger it. they give awesome experience too -- about 45,000 for each of the four. doing so is a bit of luck though and can be a process. sounds like you're fine in level though. --- xyzzy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:14:09 AM | message detail | #213 |
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Trust me. Ana's better than Halley. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:20:53 AM | message detail | #214 |
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Maybe. I mean, I didn't hate Anastasia or anything, but I don't adore her like some of you people. they give awesome experience too -- about 45,000 for each of the four. doing so is a bit of luck though and can be a process. sounds like you're fine in level though. Damn! That sounds good. And yeah, Yuri is level 27, Alice is level 26, and Keith is level 26. Guessing that's good enough. I haven't stopped to level at all in either game, which has been really nice. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 1:21:27 AM | message detail | #215 |
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Halley is pretty bad. personally... Yuri (both are about the same to me - I could go into this, but don't feel like writing paragraphs) > Joachim > Alice > Karin > Blanca > Margarete > Kurando > Zhuzhen > Keith > Geppetto > Halley > Anastasia > Lucia SH2's got a lot of good and a lot of bad. SH1 has Yuri, Alice and a lot of average. I like its side characters a good amount though, including one you haven't met yet. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 1:22:22 AM | message detail | #216 |
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I think Alice gets awesome at 28 or so? when you get Arc.. oh god. --- xyzzy |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:22:39 AM | message detail | #217 |
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Oh, and for all that I think Covenant's gameplay whoops SH1's, I do
like that each character is unique in the special attacks (magic) that
they have more than Crests. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:24:05 AM | message detail | #218 |
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Halley > Anastasia AUGH --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:25:13 AM | message detail | #219 |
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Someone loves some Joachim! --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:27:03 AM | message detail | #220 |
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Yuri > Anastasia > Kurando > Alice > Karin > Keith >
Joachim > Zhuzhen > Margarette > Blanca > Gepetto >
Lucia > Halley (I hate you!) --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:30:27 AM | message detail | #221 |
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Kurando? Really? --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:31:34 AM | message detail | #222 |
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Eh, I'm a sucker for the stereotypical samurai guy. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:38:04 AM | message detail | #223 |
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So here's what I got of the PC cast, because I could slip in a whole mess of NPCs here that it would blow your mind aww yeah Yuri > Alice > Zhuzhen (this guy got awesome really fast) > Karin > Solid Blanca > Margarete > Kurando > Keith > Anastasia > Joachim > Gepetto > Lucia --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 1:38:11 AM | message detail | #224 |
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Kurando is cool, but he doesn't really have much of a personality. he's
like 'yo, I have a sword. I'm cute. don't expect much more from me.' --- xyzzy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:41:09 AM | message detail | #225 |
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Hmm, if we squeeze NPCs into the list; important ones, it looks something like this. Sea Mother > Yuri > Anastasia > Albert Simon > Roger Bacon > Kurando > Nicolai > Alice > Karin > Kawashima > Keith > Joachim > Zhuzhen > Kato > Margarette > Blanca > Gepetto > Dehuai > Lucia > Rasputin > Halley (I hate you!) --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:44:28 AM | message detail | #226 |
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Well, now I've got to go squeezing in NPCs... Yuri > Alice > Zhuzhen > Roger Bacon > Karin > Kawashima > Albert Simon (WOULD YOU LIKE SOME TEA) > Solid Blanca > Margarete > Kato > Kurando > Keith > Anastasia > Joachim > Gepetto > Rasputin > Lucia > > > > > > crap > > > > > > > > Yuber > Veronica. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:45:21 AM | message detail | #227 |
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Alright, Yuber's moving up in the world! --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 1:45:54 AM | message detail | #228 |
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Oh, and I think you're Albert Simon will go up by the end of the game. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:47:20 AM | message detail | #229 |
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I'm looking forward to seeing more of Albert. All I got of him so far
is him enjoying scenery, eye hax, and talking to himself about tea in a
bubble. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 1:52:05 AM | message detail | #230 |
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are you still in Rouen? he gets better and better from Rouen on. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 1:56:51 AM | message detail | #231 |
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OH what did you think of Kato? --- xyzzy |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 1:58:48 AM | message detail | #232 |
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Yeah, still there. And Kato... is like the polar opposite of Kato in SH2 -- stuttery, doesn't seem to confident, nervous. It's like "What the hell happened to you in one year?" --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 2:00:00 AM | message detail | #233 |
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His chin got bigger. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 2:00:18 AM | message detail | #234 |
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yeah, most of us see Kato and are like "wtf happened?" I've been
picturing you having the opposite reaction -- going in expecting big
things only to find a little nerdy guy. I love how he grew an amazing
chin within one year. --- xyzzy |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 2:01:58 AM | message detail | #235 |
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Kato's chin is ****ing epic. That thing is the source of all his power in SH2. There's no doubt about it. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 2:02:52 AM | message detail | #236 |
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I'm trying to find a portrait of him from SH1, because I'm actually pretty sure it's bigger in 1 than 2. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 2:04:43 AM | message detail | #237 |
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http://sh.megaten.net/sh/chara/kato.gif I don't know about that. His chin in SH2 was just ridiculous. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 2:05:18 AM | message detail | #238 |
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Hmmm, I remember it being bigger than that. I stand corrected. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| Undeniable | Posted 5/7/2007 2:14:52 AM | message detail | #239 |
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Margarette is too amazing for you, it seems. WTF with Zhuzhen, never
cared for that guy, really. All in all, Kato being THAT different and
such was one of things that made the scene where he kills Nicholai
worst in Covenant. That and, well, Nicholai dies. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9RixVs7zrgY How Covenant SHOULD HAVE BEEN --- "Call that a god?... Fine, stand back. Lets see if I can perform one of your so called "Miracles".." - Killer, Shadow Hearts: From the New World |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/7/2007 2:21:21 AM | message detail | #240 |
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Covenant without Yuri would have been a travesty and then some. --- Sign up to nominate Gilgamesh for SC2k7! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=34669782 |
| transience | Posted 5/7/2007 2:24:56 AM | message detail | #241 |
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SH2 with Nicolai would be an entertaining game, but storywise it would have been like SH3 - all right, but certainly lacking. --- xyzzy |
| Undeniable | Posted 5/7/2007 2:26:21 AM | message detail | #242 |
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Meh, I think Nicholai could be a better protagonist then Johnny, Johnny was kinda weak. --- "Call that a god?... Fine, stand back. Lets see if I can perform one of your so called "Miracles".." - Killer, Shadow Hearts: From the New World |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 2:35:44 AM | message detail | #243 |
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Covenant without Yuri would have been a travesty and then some. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 3:16:50 PM | message detail | #244 |
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pretty interesting. The first was him saying there's no rush to get
Alice, and then the second was when he confronted Yuri and Alice in a
back alley -- the same one Alice's father was killed in. More
information about Bacon is revealed, too -- 700 years old, a brilliant
alchemist, was an upstanding individual, and then was eventually
persecuted during the witch hunts and exiled. -- Father Doyle, the guy who locks himself up in the church, ends up telling Alice who his father had come to meet back on the day he was killed: Cardinal Albert Simon. Hello there, name confusion. He also reveals that Simon has a mansion in London before Olga ends up taking him out shortly after, and that ends up with a rather easy boss fight for me. I got the second level fusions for Dark and Fire -- Inferno + Ignition = awesome -- so the fight wasn't too difficult. Just pound away on her with Yuri, then the occasional Blessed Light/Corpse Arm moves from Alice/Zhuzhen, along with a sprinkling of healing did the trick. -- When I get to London, the first thing that happens is a scene with some little kid getting bullied around by a man in black. Yuri ends up scaring him off, but the kid, during his "thanks, miss ma'am," which ticks Margarete off so bad, steals all our money. The locales say they're a rag tag group of four with Halley as their leader, just trying to do what they can to get by since they're orphans living by themselves. (aww) -- I'm not understanding the Halley that was going on in here. He's not great or anything, but he certainly doesn't belong at the end of a list (hay tissue whats up). He's got some crazy ESP powers, too -- and holy crap do they do some awesome damage. -- Jack, the guy running the orphange, is pretty crazy. Yuri nailed it with the "Talk about an Oedipus Complex." Apparently, he was using the children that he gathered there for the experiment he was working on, which was to use the Emigre Manuscript that Albert Simon (Bacon?) had given him years back. Reading those diary entries of the child and even his were pretty creepy. -- The Orphanage dungeon was great. I like how small these are. Nice puzzle with the passcodes, too. -- That Mysterious Voice that has been bugging Yuri for all this time has been... Halley's mom? That seems so strange. But Halley goes into how his mom got taken away and put into a mental institution after being accused of being a witch or something. He says she couldn't find back because they threatened to kill him -- when he was a kid -- if she did. So now the next stop is... a mental institution. This game... love --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| jlh28532 | Posted 5/7/2007 4:00:17 PM | message detail | #245 |
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Haley's mohter = Hero of Koduelca, or however in the hell you spell it --- Diamond WIFI code: 1203-5713-9413 Wi-Fi record: 3-1 |
| trannyscience | Posted 5/7/2007 4:09:43 PM | message detail | #246 |
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love the Orphanage -- second best dungeon only to the Mental Hospital. London is my favourite part of the game. --- i do not violation any rules "I hate you for introducing "Man Festival" to my vocabulary." - Heroic Mario |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 6:34:30 PM | message detail | #247 |
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-- The Mysterious Voice did indeed turn out to be Koudelka, who I had
no idea was Halley's mom. Pretty interesting stuff -- and she
apparently is the "Key of Darkness," so Albert Simon doesn't really
need Alice anymore since she's essentially the opposite (Key of Light),
and both will work. -- I loved the Mental Hospital. That has probably been my favorite dungeon in the game. The boss fight against Olga at the end was pain, though. I checked up on when Alice learns Arc (Cure), and it isn't until a little later, so it's pretty much Yuri turning into Ifrit + Ignition, then Alice and Halley healing. It took a while, there was a time when I thought I might end up getting killed (would have been the first time in the game), but I pulled through at the end. All those items you get in this game are so crucial. But yeah -- OLGA IS DEAD, OLGA IS DEAD LET'S CELEBRATE! Hate that old hag. -- Like mentioned before, Koudelka is the Key of Darkness, according to Simon, and she went with him willingly to spare Yuri and co.'s lives. She tells Yuri right before she goes to head off to Wales. -- When the group gets back to London, Yuri talks to Halley about not just sitting around crying because his mom died, and that he has to keep going even though she has. Halley gets all emotional and is like "NOOO YOU BASTARD," but Yuri punches him in the face, which just about ends that. He gets ready to leave, but Alice stops him, then there's a flashback that occurs that night Alice's father was killed. She says she wants to go to Rouen alone to find out something. -- In Rouen, Alice ends up fighting out the truth that Bacon is actually Cardinal Albert Simon. When she leaves the confessional room, there's the old English bastard standing right there. Damn villains popping up out of nowhere like that. They end up having a discussion about Albert's motives being about revenge, and how there's something wrong with the people in the world, which made me think of Kato from SH2, because they sound really similar -- of course, Albert lacks the almighty chin, so it doesn't quite have that "umph." -- When Alice gets back to London, she tells the group about it, and they decide it's time to head off to Wales. So the next stop here is the Nemeton Monastery. aww yeah --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| trannyscience | Posted 5/7/2007 6:50:29 PM | message detail | #248 |
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The Top Hat > The Chin. Semi and I have argued about this before! --- i do not violation any rules "I hate you for introducing "Man Festival" to my vocabulary." - Heroic Mario |
| ZFS | Posted 5/7/2007 6:51:44 PM | message detail | #249 |
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Semi would argue in favor of anything hat-related. But he's always, always wrong if it means going against Kato's Chin. --- "Called 'Godslayer' by some; feared by most -- Yuri Hyuga." |
| trannyscience | Posted 5/7/2007 6:54:14 PM | message detail | #250 |
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no, he went with the chin in this case. but then again, he thinks Albert Simon is weaksauce, so whatever. --- i do not violation any rules "I hate you for introducing "Man Festival" to my vocabulary." - Heroic Mario |
