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It's time for a Man Festival (HM just bought Shadow Hearts: Covenant!)

Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 5:44:37 PM | message detail | #051
lol you shuld have checked Nicholai's profile (Its in his status screen) it states directly he's a spy, and its there RIGHT when you meet him. Really, truly, play SH1 first, you get the entire Alice story, and the cool top hatted gentleman you meet soon isn't random.
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jlh28532 | Posted 4/29/2007 5:46:12 PM | message detail | #052
SH2 HAS A LOAD SH1 DATA WHICH LETS YURI RECAP THE FIRST GAME WITH POORLY DRAWN PICTURES! DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE YOU DID WITH SUIKO2!

No SH1 save needed
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 5:46:13 PM | message detail | #053
You guys can quit with the SH1 stuff, because I'm not playing it first. If I complain any about not understanding, or that the game makes no sense, feel free to go off on me. Until then, let's not keep recommending SH1. I'm playing it after.

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Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 5:48:42 PM | message detail | #054
Fine, by why aren't you playing it now, you have to hurry through the crap (Beginning of Covenant) get to Russia and mett the super secret leader.
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 5:49:42 PM | message detail | #055
I'm checking up on some other stuff before playing it. My day's almost finished, so I'll be putting in a lot more time here in a few.

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jlh28532 | Posted 4/29/2007 5:50:58 PM | message detail | #056
Something I want to comment on. The old man is a puppeteer, right -- BUT WHY DOES HE HAVE A DOLL OF A LITTLE GIRL WEARING A SHORT DRESS?! That's has to be the strangest weapon I've ever seen for a character. That's worth a nice, big "WTF."

Just wait until you get your next member.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 4/29/2007 5:59:09 PM | message detail | #057
^_^


KB
Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 6:03:50 PM | message detail | #058
Hmm, it appears my friend has my SH1 copy, and I'm missing disc 1 or Covenant...well, good thing I have a mod chip..
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YoAriel33 | Posted 4/29/2007 6:04:51 PM | message detail | #059
A... man festival?
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meisnewbie | Posted 4/29/2007 7:28:53 PM | message detail | #060
That's has to be the strangest weapon I've ever seen for a character

You haven't seen many strange weapons have you?

P.S. Joachim's weapons are stranger.
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jlh28532 | Posted 4/29/2007 7:38:50 PM | message detail | #061
A... man festival?

Joachim's personal side quest
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 7:51:28 PM | message detail | #062
A few quick notes.


-- I love the scene where Karin comes out in her new outfit. "Stars? I saw paradise!" Yuri's awesome.

-- The two, uh, freaks who do the item shop are...strange. But I can already sense that I'm pretty much showering Yuri with everything possible, because he's pretty much OHKOing enemies while the others are having trouble -- he also barely takes any damage. darn my bias

-- Making outfits for Cornelia -- the little doll -- is...no.

-- I don't like underground subways.

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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 7:53:08 PM | message detail | #063
augh no sh1

oh well, you can still enjoy it. but you're going to be missing what, in my opinion, makes the best part of the game.

but that's cool, you can enjoy it without it.

as for SP, SH2 gives a terrible explanation of it, so let me explain: every turn, you decrease by 1 SP. if you hit 0, you lose control of your character and you won't get EXP for the fight. you can restore SP using "pure" items -- just think of it as another meter you have to keep above 0.

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jlh28532 | Posted 4/29/2007 7:53:08 PM | message detail | #064
Just wait until you meet Nicholai's Right and Left hands
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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 7:54:50 PM | message detail | #065
http://z-o-g.org/gallery2/shadowhearts/shII-nav/subway_map.gif.html

this will take a bit to get used to, but once you understand it, it's hella helpful. that place kinda sucks a lot.
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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 7:56:45 PM | message detail | #066
also, karin's army outfit is a billion times better than the crap she wears for the rest of the game
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 7:57:53 PM | message detail | #067
Whoa, thanks. That actually helps out quite a bit.

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Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 8:36:41 PM | message detail | #068
Yeah, I loved her army outfit.. she looks blah in her second.. her THIRD outfit, however...
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 9:37:24 PM | message detail | #069
Just finished playing for a bit -- food break! I'm currently in the Wine Cellar right now going after the Mayor's thugs who stole the children from the shop in La Havre.


-- The chick with the whip, or the stick whatever, at the end of the subway tunnel is...so bad. That is such a bad character design.

-- Joachim introduction is one of the corniest, and hilarious, things that has happened in the game so far. Kind of crazy, but entertaining.

-- All of my guys so far are level 8. Everyone's got the latest equipment and whatnot -- although I've been going nuts with giving Yuri all of the Hit Expands.

-- I've gotten three of Yuri's Fusions -- Dark, Light, and Fire. Fire is Level 3, Dark is Level 2, and Light is Level 2. Just a few souls short of upgrading Dark to Grade 2 since I like that one for whatever reason.

-- Yuri is awesome.

-- I've got nothing...

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Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 9:43:42 PM | message detail | #070
I liked Veronica.. well, I like a scene in Russia with Veronica.
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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 9:44:01 PM | message detail | #071
I always focus on one fusion in SH2 and level the christ out of it. I like Fire, but other ones work as well. plus, once you get the second level fusion, it's big enough that fusing into it is an instant three-person combo. nice and easy way to get through battles quickly.
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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 9:47:13 PM | message detail | #072
and yeah, Veronica is pretty disgusting.
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RayDyn | Posted 4/29/2007 9:52:24 PM | message detail | #073
You know, I usually don't read playthrough topics, but SH2 is one of my favorite games. Anyway, I agree that Veronica's character design is bad, but I figure she's there for the same reason as Lucia.

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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 9:53:45 PM | message detail | #074
Karin's outfit isn't too bad, I don't think. Probably not quite as good as the army outfit, but yeah... I won't complain!

(She has had a surprisingly lack of lines so far.)

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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 9:56:31 PM | message detail | #075
SH2 is Yuri, Yuri and more Yuri. the other characters are just kinda... there. I don't mind because the main character holds the story together so well, but you don't get the interaction that you would with other RPGs.
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 9:58:07 PM | message detail | #076
Oh, really? Sounds good to me.

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RayDyn | Posted 4/29/2007 9:58:24 PM | message detail | #077
I'd agree with that, tranny, but it's such a fun game that it really doesn't bother me. The thing that bugged me about the game was that they used the bad ending from SH1 to base it off of.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 4/29/2007 9:58:39 PM | message detail | #078
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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 9:58:47 PM | message detail | #079
by the way, who are you using? are you one of the 99.9% that kicked Geppetto out?
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 10:02:09 PM | message detail | #080
Note-based playthrough topics are lame. =/

I just did a playthrough topic and I'm not about to type up a novel of my experience with another game so soon.


by the way, who are you using? are you one of the 99.9% that kicked Geppetto out?

I actually kept the old man around because I think he's pretty cool, even if he uses a little girl doll as his weapon...


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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 10:03:06 PM | message detail | #081
who's out, then?
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Dorobou | Posted 4/29/2007 10:03:59 PM | message detail | #082
Bah. You should listen to us when we tell you to play SH1 first. After all, your dumb. And don't act like this is a surprise to you, because he already revealed that you know this.

Don't make me bust it out in the sig again!
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 10:08:50 PM | message detail | #083
Blanca for now. The game hasn't been difficult at all, so I figure it shouldn't matter too much on who I'm using; just going with favorites for now. Yuri, Karin, Joachim, and Gepetto.

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transience | Posted 4/29/2007 10:14:30 PM | message detail | #084
honestly, the subway station is about as hard as the game gets. you get packs of six enemies and those snake guys can do a little bit of damage. from there on, it might even get easier.

if you don't use a map and overlevel in that dungeon, it's even easier. kinda funny.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 4/29/2007 10:15:12 PM | message detail | #085
Yuri's awesome.

Now you see why he is my favorite character.

^_^

Also, tranny mentioned the Fire fusion and maxing it out, Earth is just as worthy if not MORE worthy. Its STR stat isn't quite as high as Fire but it is higher than anyother elemental. Eventually the Earth fusion gets an ability that restores SP. Its nice.

And when you come across items called "Seal of" (life, strength, etc.) they are PERMANENT stat ups that you can use once.

Generally, using them from the your out of battle menu gets you plus 1 to a stat.

Using them in battle gets you a better result. You will get a judgement ring and if you hit the gold area you get plus 2 and if you get a perfect, you get plus 3.

Seals are great items and essentially make anyone the strongest character in the game if you get enough.

KB
ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 10:16:45 PM | message detail | #086
Haha, yeah. When I first went into the subway station, every non-Yuri character was getting hit for some pretty brutal damage. I ended up with a couple of people dead at the end of a few battles, but after running around not knowing exactly what I needed to do, it got easier -- and it helped after I bought everyone some updated equipment.

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Kyle Bowen | Posted 4/29/2007 10:18:59 PM | message detail | #087
just going with favorites for now.

Probably for good.


KB
Kyle Bowen | Posted 4/29/2007 10:20:46 PM | message detail | #088
Blanca!!!

>.<

You will soon find that Blanca is not only very useful but his character kicks ass.


KB
ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 10:21:07 PM | message detail | #089
I got one of those Seal things for beating something. I used it on Yuri to give him +1 Vitality, but I'll have to remember to use those in battle if that's how you can three points.

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Kyle Bowen | Posted 4/29/2007 10:23:43 PM | message detail | #090
I would recommend doing it right after you save if you are going for three. You can load it if you miss or hit the gold area. The perfect pie slice is tiny.
Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 10:23:44 PM | message detail | #091
Hey, HM, any plans to play FtNW? Its pretty weak storywise, and they completely drop the dark atmosphere, but its got the best gameplay and some great characters.
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HeroicSomaCruz | Posted 4/29/2007 10:24:57 PM | message detail | #092
Finally!

But play the first one. It's badass.
ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 10:26:33 PM | message detail | #093
I dunno. If I'm feeling like more Shadow Hearts after playing this and the first one, I might look around for it. I haven't really heard too much about it.

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Dorobou | Posted 4/29/2007 10:30:10 PM | message detail | #094
YOU ARE NOT HELPING, DURANGO!
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ZFS | Posted 4/29/2007 10:31:08 PM | message detail | #095
Indeed he isn't.

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Undeniable | Posted 4/29/2007 10:41:03 PM | message detail | #096
Everytime I see durango supporting SH.. it makes wish I didn't love it.
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ZFS | Posted 4/30/2007 3:48:47 AM | message detail | #097
I made it to Wales. Huzzah!


-- I made it through that Wine Cellar pretty easy, then ran into Veronica again. She's still awful -- and combined with Joachim, the cheesiness is off the charts. Funny stuff, though.


-- I liked arriving in the town with the storm going on. It's been a while since I've seen weather implemented into a RPG. Well, I guess not too long since I played FFXII a few months ago. Still, I liked the whole feeling of the town at the time.


-- Ran into some guy that knew Yuri who used to be in the Japanese Imperial Navy. "LOL HM SHOULD HAVE PLAYED SH1 FIRST," I know. Don't know anything about the guy, seems kind of strange and he clearly knows more than he lets on (hello there secret society). Yuri has some conversation after first meeting him while Karin and Gepetto are getting plastered about Alice's death.


-- Another one of those Soul Scenes takes place. Jeanne is telling Yuri that she's been trying to find his happiness, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere. He plays it cool saying he's happy, but then Jeanne busts out the "You feel you have to live for Alice," and that obviously hit a spot. I like how he handles situations like this. Good stuff.


-- Spent some time upgrading my equipment, upgraded the Dark Fusion to level 3, I think, to get Orexis (nice evasion; good power; good speed). I can't seem to upgrade it beyond this point in the Graveyard, though.


-- I was screwing around with the Party Member screen and noticed that Team C only has one person it. I found this intriguing, so I selected it with Yuri as the only character. Holy crap easy access SCC, baby! I fought a couple of battles with him, kicked lots of ass no problem, then switched back over.


-- Made it through the mines without much trouble. I noticed one area there seemed to be a guy standing on a level below me. I didn't ever manage to find a way to him -- if there is a way to him -- but it was pretty strange. This place wasn't too bad, either. Tranny was dead on with every other post-subway not being anything really difficult.


-- Fought a boss at the very end. I'm guessing that Covenant just isn't really a hard game, or maybe I'm overleveled or something. I dunno, but this guy went down pretty quickly. He had a pretty annoying spell that increased his speed by 133% and some of his physical attacks reduced my characters' speed by 33%. Nothing too bad, though.

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Wiikku | Posted 4/30/2007 4:00:57 AM | message detail | #098
I remember that guy. He freaked me out the first time I saw him.

IIRC, he doesn't give you anything that great.
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sephsblade | Posted 4/30/2007 5:27:54 AM | message detail | #099
Isn't he a lottery member?
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transience | Posted 4/30/2007 10:31:56 AM | message detail | #100
I've done a NG+ Yuri SCC. hard at the beginning, but once you get enough HP to take a hit or two it's pretty simple. never really understood why they let you switch party members with a single button, but eh.


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