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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/13/2010 8:56:38 PM | message detail | filter | #051

From: neoneaper | #048
I'd be very surprised tbh


Really? What prices did you have in mind?
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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 9:02:50 PM | message detail | filter | #052
300-350, if they send that out at 400 for the holidays, there's no chance for them. That's not to say either company is immune to bad decisions, but, 400 is unreasonable
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/13/2010 9:07:34 PM | message detail | filter | #053
It is, but if they're gonna launch at $300-350, that means they have to either bundle with the gimped SKUs or price cut the good SKUs. I hope it's the latter, but given what some people have already pointed out about what Natal and Move actually are, it might be the former. Also, the cheapest PS3 goes for $300 right now. Sony has very little wiggle room and probably has to cut the price anyway (or release a cheaper SKU) anyway.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/13/2010 9:08:07 PM | message detail | filter | #054
anyway
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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 9:11:26 PM | message detail | filter | #055
I'd be astonished if they tossed an extra 50-100 bucks on top of their models *now* to also get the Move. That's coming along with it without extra cost. It has to.
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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 9:18:42 PM | message detail | filter | #056
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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 9:20:16 PM | message detail | filter | #057
I'd say Natal has a good bit of potential with the casuals, it looks much newer and uses much more motion which was the hook of the Wii to the casuals, so they'll think "oh hey this is a big step up"

Meanwhile Move looks like more of the same, hell it looks exactly like the Wiimote/Nunchuck, if casuals want to pick one new piece of hardware, they'll pick the one that's newer and looks more advanced.
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 9:20:33 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #058
Rumor: Kinect to have two versions, most expensive costs $189.00

June 14th, 2010 @ 01:45
By Stephany Nunneley

VG247 has just been informed by an inside source close to Natal/Kinect that there will be two version of the camera controller when it hits the market.

The most expensive one will run you $189.00.

If you recall, there was a story a while back that the camera in Natal had be dumbed down a bit in order to make it cheaper. Then there was a report back in March stating that there was a “second version of the camera” being worked on – so all this makes a bit more sense now.

Well, we’ve been told by our source that Microsoft replaced that bit with tilt, that is controlled by a motor on the base – which has be known for a bit now.

Kinect was outed as the name of the motion controller earlier by a Danish advert and USA Today.

Pat is heading to the Natal event as we speak, hopefully we will know more soon.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/14/rumor-kinect-to-have-two-versions-most-expensive-cost-189-00/

not sure if legit or not

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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail | filter | #059
hmmm $190 almost suggests to me that they're looking for sales from the footprint now.
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ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 9:40:21 PM | message detail | filter | #060
natal has potential, definitely. microsoft is a master of marketing, and they have a lot of money and pull to make it happen if they're serious and committed to the project.

as far as price, agree with neon that there is no way this is bundled for $400 -- that's killing the product before it even arrives. in microsoft's case, i expect price drop on the 360, maybe even $100. but natal with a 360 won't be more than $300 if they want this to sell well.

$400 pricepoints just aren't viable anymore.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/13/2010 9:44:43 PM | message detail | filter | #061

From: ZFS | #060
microsoft is a master of marketing


Uhh did I miss something here. If this was true, Microsoft would have a lot more success with their phones, mp3 players, and even gaming consoles. I thought marketing was one of their weak points.

Anyway, I like the optimism you and neon share about the price points. I care less than nothing about Kinect/Move as products, but I'll love them if they drive down their consoles' prices (and generate more laughs at E3, which I'm more confident about!).
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 9:47:59 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #062
Microsoft's good at marketing yeah. they sell software better than anyone in the biz. I don't care about their phones or mp3 players, the 360 continues to motor on.

here's the thing with Natal - if it gets enough buzz, people will buy it no matter what. people buy Rock Band en masse and it's like $150-200. if Natal hits the right spot then it'll sell no matter what.

I just don't think that spot is being hit here. gonna need some kind of killer app to prove to people 'hey, this works and it's awesome.' we'll see if Kinekt Sports is that - gotta see it before writing it off.
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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 9:48:36 PM | message detail | filter | #063
Microsoft has done a terrific job with their gaming consoles.
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ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 9:53:55 PM | message detail | filter | #064
that said, it's tough to say without seeing it and what plans they have. i'd be surprised if it's packaged in at $100 more than the base model. part of the wii's success was its price. marketing to a casual audience means coming in low on the the price.

anyway, i'm kinda looking forward to seeing this thing. it could be kinda cool if it's even as good as the wii. i'm into motion stuff as a diversion and something to goof around with.
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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 9:59:06 PM | message detail | filter | #065
... Now here's a weird rumour.

“Let us start with what I know. A big publisher will present a very promising peripheral for Wii. You might think that all sensible peripherals have been done, but not quite. This one could become quite useful. And, surprisingly, the publisher has managed to secure the support of other publishers for it, I am told. So this one will not gather dust as soon as that ´Tony Hawk Ride´ board, they hope. I will only give you a cryptic hint: the peripheral will enable some seminal DS games to be adapted to Wii better than would otherwise have been possible. A cryptic hint, like I said.”

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/41898/
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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 10:01:39 PM | message detail | filter | #066
is it a usb cable and a firmware update?
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:02:04 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #067
I'm tired of dumb rumours. I think I might just ignore them for the next 12 hours unless something more concrete starts popping up.

like what the hell is this


If the current round of LA chatter turns out to be true, tomorrow’s Activision “preview” event at the Staples Center is going to be both unmissable and ridiculous.

VG247 has been told that the party, which has cost $6 million, will “definitely” feature both Usher and Jane’s Addiction, as well as a mystery headline act – both Lady Gaga and Beyonce have been mentioned in the past 24 hours.

Not all. The event is actually taking place in the Staples Center. Not in an outside part of it. It’s in the actual auditorium. Why? Well, it’d be tough to have the LA Philharmonic Orchestra squashed into one of the outdoor bars. And how could you lower down a skate ramp while Tony Hawk is skating on it into anything but the home of the LA Lakers?

Think that’s mental? Apparently Activision has recruited the world’s “best strippers” for the party, and will have the ladies doing their thing at every corner of the crowd.

If you’re now thinking it might be a good time to try for a ticket, tough lines. The event is strictly invite-only, and all requests are non-transferable.

Are we going? Of course we are. It starts at 9.00pm PST tomorrow night.

I know Eminem's supposed to be at this thing
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ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 10:03:05 PM | message detail | filter | #068
oh, hey, tran, do you know if spike is running all of the conferences, or are they just doing microsoft's stuff?

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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:04:31 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #069
just Microsoft. G4's doing other stuff. let me find it...

Monday
• 3:00 PM E3 2010 Live
• LIVE
• 4:30 PM E3 2010 Live "Spotlight: EA & Ubisoft"
• LIVE
• 10:00 PM E3 2010 Live "Spotlight: Valve" CANCELLED?
• LIVE
• 11:30 PM E3 2010 Live – 1:00 AM

Tuesday
• 11:30 AM E3 2010 Live "Spotlight: Nintendo & Sony"
• LIVE
• 5:00 PM E3 2010 Live "Day 1"
• LIVE
• 9:00 PM It's Effin' Science
• NEW
• 9:30 PM E3 2010 Live "Feedback: Day 1" – 10:00 PM
• LIVE
• 12:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 1"
• 4:00 AM It's Effin' Science
• 4:30 AM E3 2010 Live "Feedback: Day 1" – 5:00 AM

Wednesday
• 9:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 1"
• 1:00 PM It's Effin' Science
• 1:30 PM E3 2010 Live "Feedback: Day 1" – 2:00 PM
• 6:00 PM E3 2010 Live "Day 2"
• LIVE
• 9:00 PM Web Soup: E3 Special
• NEW
• 9:30 PM E3 2010 Live "Feedback: Day 2" – 10:00 PM
• LIVE
• 12:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 2"
• 3:00 AM Web Soup: E3 Special
• 3:30 AM E3 2010 Live "Feedback: Day 2" – 4:00 AM

Thursday
• 9:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 2"
• 12:00 PM Web Soup: E3 Special – 12:30 PM
• 6:00 PM E3 2010 Live "Day 3"
• LIVE
• 9:00 PM G4 Specials: Star Wars Strikes Back – 9:30 PM
• NEW
• 12:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 3"
• 3:00 AM G4 Specials: Star Wars Strikes Back – 3:30 AM

Friday
• 9:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 3" – 12:00 PM
• 10:30 PM It's Effin' Science – 11:00 PM

Saturday
• 9:00 AM E3 2010 Live "Day 1"
• 1:00 PM It's Effin' Science
• 1:30 PM E3 2010 Live "Day 2"
• 4:30 PM Web Soup: E3 Special
• 5:00 PM E3 2010 Live "Day 3" – 8:00 PM

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Diet Water | Posted 6/13/2010 10:08:14 PM | message detail | filter | #070
we need more Mega Man
ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 10:14:07 PM | message detail | filter | #071
nice, that'll work.


speaking of rumorz, any ridiculous ff7 stuff !

also, what are you dudes looking forward to out of this? i feel like i have no idea what's here or what's been announced / rumored, so outside of like halo, zelda, lara corft and civ5 i don't have much!

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/13/2010 10:15:43 PM | message detail | filter | #072
There are always MEGATONs
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:16:38 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #073
Nintendo's got all the cards. Zelda, 3DS and a nice collection of RPGs, from DQ9 and Golden Sun DS to Last Story and Xenoblade. Sony's focusing on Move (their new slogan is "it only changes everything" so you know it's going to be big) and Microsoft's got the Natal stuff, so Nintendo might actually hit gamers better than the others this time.

from Sony, I want a new Last Guardian trailer. from Microsoft, some info about their XBLA stuff. from Nintendo, Last Story and Xenoblade stuff, along with some nice surprises. I think I'm more looking forward to smaller announcements -- things that wouldn't make the big press conferences -- than the typical e3 fanfare.
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:17:05 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #074
oh and I want to see new Metroid gameplay too. Nintendo is where I'm at this year for sure.
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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 10:19:01 PM | message detail | filter | #075
Already been playing Xenoblade the past few days so I don't need any info on that, but definitely would love to finally see something of The Last Story

and more Metroid of course
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:20:36 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #076
by 'more info' I mean 'a US date' for Xenoblade.
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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 10:20:57 PM | message detail | filter | #077
oh yeah how did I leave out to what I'm looking forward to seeing the very most - 3DS
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ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 10:22:22 PM | message detail | filter | #078
haha, not an e3 without MEGATONS.

and yeah, im the same way. most of what i'm looking at is smaller stuff, or at least for now. who knows with new announcements.


a couple of pre-e3 stuff i did see was dreamcast games on xbla and yakuza 4 -- awesome zone.

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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:24:46 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #079
by the way, HM, I played some Xenoblade. you're going to really like it. we'll talk about it when you get a computer back.

are you getting it fixed by the way?
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ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 10:30:07 PM | message detail | filter | #080
yeah, nintendo is the one with all the stuff to look forward to. even of potential announcements, nintendo's got a lot of good stuff they could go with. microosoft/sony doin' motion controls, nintendo doin' games.


also, are we sure last story is gonna be here? i would think so, but it seems likwe something they might hold back until tgs. hopefully it is -- gooch is always good news.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/13/2010 10:30:56 PM | message detail | filter | #081
Gooch needs to stick to Legos and pictures of dogs.
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 10:31:58 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #082
no confirmation but they've been showing more and more stuff lately. it feels like it's ready to get officially unveiled now and e3 would be a good place to broadcast it, especially with Xenoblade out in Japan now. hell, Xenoblade came with Last Story ads and screenshots in the Xenoblade manual.
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ZFS | Posted 6/13/2010 10:38:59 PM | message detail | filter | #083
oh, did you? good to hear it turned out well. and yeah, i'm trying to fix it -- probably just gonna get a new one, even some $300 thing is better than mine now!

sux i'm missing out on the new last story screens. any vids or new details?

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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 10:39:02 PM | message detail | filter | #084
Nintendo looks like it has everything that people want from them, and the 3DS, and the Vitality Sensor. They should crush.

I'm looking forward to Fable 3, Gears 3, 3DS, Zelda (and praying they dont put out WW/TP quality), and how MS and Sony deal with their new peripherals.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/13/2010 10:40:09 PM | message detail | filter | #085
and praying they dont put out WW quality

hey now
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neoneaper | Posted 6/13/2010 10:43:13 PM | message detail | filter | #086
Look I remember when Zelda was good, not when I had to convince myself it was good
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/13/2010 10:43:37 PM | message detail | filter | #087
you probably also remember the crusades
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 6/13/2010 10:44:46 PM | message detail | filter | #088
For the first time in many years I'm looking forward to Nintendo more than anyone else. Square-Enix has officially left the building and the main MGS series has came to an end, so apart from The Last Guardian and the slim hopes of Persona 5, Valkyria Chronicles 3 and Uncharted 3 announcements I'm pretty ambivalent about the PS3. Microsoft seems to have its usual Halo/Gears/Fable plus massive Natal hype (I don't care about paying through the nose for Natal or Move... I'm only just getting into the Wii's motion controls!). Nintendo has a new Zelda, a new Metroid, an exciting new handheld, a new Pokemon gen, The Last Story and Xenoblade (please Europe releases for the RPGs!).

The event's always great fun to follow though - together with World Cup matches the next couple of days should be great to kick back through, playing SMG2 in the meantime.

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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 11:01:42 PM | message detail | filter | #089
oh wow, in Xenoblade I just realized you can just bring up the map to to teleport


lol not being able to read anything, can't wait for this to come here
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transience (tc) | Posted 6/13/2010 11:08:50 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #090
I haven't followed Last Story too closely - kinda just waiting for something real instead of dumb blog post updates or concept art. screens don't tell much, especially in an RPG.

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GuessMyUserName | Posted 6/13/2010 11:17:06 PM | message detail | filter | #091
I don't think it makes a difference if you followed it or not, there's pretty much no info!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/13/2010 11:23:38 PM | message detail | filter | #092
My most anticipated games for the next few years:

Kingdom Hearts III
Knights of the Old Republic III
Resident Evil 6
Zelda Wii

I am most looking forward to ________'s press conference.
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TheOceIot | Posted 6/13/2010 11:56:36 PM | message detail | filter | #093
I like the name Kinect. Not a huge fan of the "rumoured" 360 redesign. It's great that it has Wi-Fi built it, but the thing looks ugly. Although If they have completely eliminated the RROD though then it doesn't matter that much.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 6/14/2010 2:10:44 AM | message detail | filter | #094
Xenoblade looks really boring from what ive seen of it <_<

Also yeah out of Warning. Eat my ass Uruguay
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ZFS | Posted 6/14/2010 2:11:22 AM | message detail | filter | #095
whoa, is the 360 slim rumored to have built in wi-fi? megaton alert. that's the only big thing the 360 is missing

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transcience | Posted 6/14/2010 2:16:58 AM | message detail | filter | #096
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKCjFyDTq8

goddamn this looks useless. controllerless video streaming on netflix would be awesome but not $100 awesome. microsoft's gonna take some crap tomorrow.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/14/2010 2:21:22 AM | message detail | filter | #097
Blu-Ray would be the only difference then, but it's still a big one. Of course, if Microsoft wants to be aggressive, they can release this thing under $300, which isn't even a stretch considering redesigns like this should cut production costs (that's exactly what Sony did with the PS3 Slim). That would be just great.

I'm gonna stick with my limited edition red 360 until it dies, but right now, I'm cheering any move that results in Sony lowering the PS3 price.
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McNagah | Posted 6/14/2010 2:23:50 AM | message detail | filter | #098
We should host an AIM E3 chat for discussingenuity E3 things.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 6/14/2010 2:25:29 AM | message detail | filter | #099
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKCjFyDTq8

2nd part is like I went back to 1987
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/14/2010 2:28:22 AM | message detail | filter | #100

From: transcience | #096
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKCjFyDTq8


Holy ****, Microsoft's moms are even hotter than Nintendo's moms. o__o

From: McNagah | #098
We should host an AIM E3 chat for discussingenuity E3 things.


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