GameFAQs Contests
So I appealed a moderation and the mod misread my post entirely.
anyway, i dont see why they are making such a huge deal about red making this topic. he's very candid with us and we love him for it. mods like him give us faith in the moderator system. it feels like you guys are coming in here and trying ot create some kind of division. its like in buffy the vampire slayer where giles was there to be a stern guide to buffy that she relied on but was strict when the situation called for it. then the watcher council rolled in there with Wesley to call Giles out on being a failure even though he was doing a great job and everybody hated them for it. basically what im saying is you need to stop being so British. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG |
I really don't miss this drama. --- Watch me play games! http://www.livestream.com/dabu |
Of course it counts.... well it doesn't matter if it's closed because red can re-open it, right? Or at least he can post in it while closed --- foolmo 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance.' - ertyu quoting Tidus |
From: Achromatic | Posted: 12/29/2009 12:27:53 AM | #139 I don't know if you manage to be KoSed multiple times I've got to say your opinion on the moderation system probably doesn't mean very much to me. I know more about the moderation system and the ToU than nearly any user on the site and probably 3/4 of the moderators. --- ~TRC (04:40:21 PM) brmownzj00rass: i hope you can smoke or drunk that ram |
From: fooImoron | Posted: 12/29/2009 12:29:57 AM | #153 Of course it counts.... well it doesn't matter if it's closed because red can re-open it, right? Or at least he can post in it while closed Moderators can't reopen topics, but yes he could post in it after it is closed. --- ~TRC (04:40:21 PM) brmownzj00rass: i hope you can smoke or drunk that ram |
I know more about the moderation system and the ToU than nearly any user on the site and probably 3/4 of the moderators. I can think of three out of four moderators in this very topic for whom you probably do, at least! --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/barkley.jpg |
From: Zepheros | #149 Hoho, what do we have here. Also I was sticking to the topic. He made a very ill-informed post that sought to make many assumptions about the users of this board, I corrected him and told him why I thought he had that opinion, because it is skewed. Also it isn't petty in the least, I don't think you know what the word petty means. No harm is done, never has been. If you think there is any harm int his topic outside of the non-red13n moderators coming in and acting as if there has been any harm then you do not understand how board 8 works. --- Board 8's resident badass since 2003. Sir Chris |
I don't understand how someone can be KOS and have a 3000+ karma account something doesn't add up --- Ryoko Hitler's ghost is my friend and he buys me ice cream and I ride on his back and fly through the sky - SantaRPG |
red
is not "any normal user." If a moderator has an issue with a
moderation, they're expected to dispute it, as any other user would.
However, if they are dissatisfied with that, they are expected to
discuss it privately on Moderator Discussion. That way, the
issue can potentially be resolved without causing unnecessary drama or
"fueling the fire." If the moderator doesn't like the outcome and
they're actually in the right, I couldn't care less about them venting
publicly. I'm not saying red shouldn't be allowed to complain about moderations publicly, but if he's going to do that when a) he's not even in the right and b) he hasn't even exhausted all of his dispute options before doing so, that's just being unreasonable. --- Xboxlover2<51>(36)-New York City's #1 GameFAQs User It's like I'm having a barbecue in my pants! |
XD this topic is gold a+ to smartmuffin --- Improving the quality of the board since 2002 Warning_Crazy |
From: Liam8 | #154 We care. So much. |
foolmo, you have earned my eternal love, respect, and admiration. --- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! |
From: Ryokle | Posted: 12/29/2009 12:31:31 AM | #158 I don't understand how someone can be KOS and have a 3000+ karma account something doesn't add up I am just that damn good. --- ~TRC (04:40:21 PM) brmownzj00rass: i hope you can smoke or drunk that ram |
From: Liam8 | #154 So you agree that this is invasion --- foolmo 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance.' - ertyu quoting Tidus |
I really don't miss this drama. I generally make it a point to stay out of it. Apparently we've drawn a lot of random visitors since some totally anonymous user decided to bump up this topic though. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. |
This topic is amazing. |
From: Xboxlover2 | #159 I hope you realize the only person who has fueled any fire here is you. We were all happy to make fun of red's moderation before you guys showed up. We treat red as "one of us" because he posts regularly and to us, it was a friend lamenting a moderation, with a taste of irony because he is a mod. Before you guys showed up. --- "it is a friggen beam so it is moving light speed" - MWC on Samus beam weapons. Seriously. Sir Chris |
From: PerfectChaosZ | #166 if by amazing you mean mind bogglingly horrible, then yes. amazing. --- Ryoko Hitler's ghost is my friend and he buys me ice cream and I ride on his back and fly through the sky - SantaRPG |
That way, the issue can potentially be resolved without causing unnecessary drama or "fueling the fire." What exactly is having various moderators come in here and argue with red about it doing, if not causing unnecessary drama and "fueling the fire" The fact that you're all going out of your way to come in and act exactly like the stereotypical mod who just posts "fair, stop complaining" and won't ever admit to being wrong would be hilarious if you were doing it ironically, but I'm not convinced that's the case... --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/barkley.jpg |
if by amazing you mean mind bogglingly horrible, then yes. amazing. Don't mind Ryoko. When people tell her she was amazing that's usually what they mean. --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/barkley.jpg |
From: Xboxlover2 | #159 Yeah this has got to be invasion, coming into our board and questioning our customs. Red is one of the coolest "normal" people on the board (even considering his furriness). He is very much so regarded as an equal on this board, and when his moderator status is mentioned, it is always in jest or in appreciation of how well he uses it compared to most moderators on the site. --- foolmo 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance.' - ertyu quoting Tidus |
I
hope you realize the only person who has fueled any fire here is you.
We were all happy to make fun of red's moderation before you guys
showed up. We treat red as "one of us" because he posts regularly and
to us, it was a friend lamenting a moderation, with a taste of irony
because he is a mod. Before you guys showed up. Board 8 regulars will obviously not make a big deal about it. One of the mod-hating board wandering Hellhole regulars who pop into Board 8 and the other large social boards every now and then will. That's my issue with this topic. --- Xboxlover2<51>(36)-New York City's #1 GameFAQs User It's like I'm having a barbecue in my pants! |
don't mind smuffin, he's just bitter because he will never know the touch of a woman that he didn't pay for --- Ryoko Hitler's ghost is my friend and he buys me ice cream and I ride on his back and fly through the sky - SantaRPG |
From: fooImoron | Posted: 12/29/2009 12:32:14 AM | #164 So you agree that this is invasion You would at least have to figure out what board we are coming from and find some kind of evidence to support that the purpose of the various users posting in this topic is to disrupt the normal flow of conversation and such. --- ~TRC (04:40:21 PM) brmownzj00rass: i hope you can smoke or drunk that ram |
From: SmartMuffin | #170 A+ that's all I can say.... simply A+ --- foolmo 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance.' - ertyu quoting Tidus |
From: Ryokle | #173 Actually I don't have the courage to pay for it either =( --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/barkley.jpg |
Yeah. I guarantee you nobody here thought less of the moderation system because of this topic. Maybe we already thought low of it because of silly moderations, but this topic didn't make our views worse. It was just a funny and ironic topic. You guys, however, are causing me to hate the moderators and all that they stand for ! Oh yes, considering I've only been KoSed multiple times and have been one of the most outspoken critics of the moderation system and the moderators for the past decade obviously means I am a "kiss ass". So you are one of us, brother! Where is your fighting spirit?! Take up the cause once more! --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG |
Muffin... XD; I love this thread so much. |
OK,
well, people who hate the moderation system will always find a way to
hate it. That's the problem with biases. It doesn't matter what the
moderation staff says to people who wander into this topic, they would
find a way. If the moderation staff is so concerned with its detractors
that this topic makes them fear them more, I think you misunderstand
the balance of power you have. I don't know, but whenever I have ever
had power if someone hated everything I did no matter what I did, I
just stopped trying to please them. --- Dragon Quest V is awesome Sir Chris |
From: Liam8 | #174 so you REALLY don't know how the gameFAQs mod system works... --- foolmo 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance.' - ertyu quoting Tidus |
Board
8 regulars will obviously not make a big deal about it. One of the
mod-hating board wandering Hellhole regulars who pop into Board 8 and
the other large social boards every now and then will. That's my issue
with this topic. And now, you've turned it into a 200+ post "mod fight" which is SURE to attract even more attention than it could have ever hoped to in its own. Good job. --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/barkley.jpg |
Oh my god Muffin yu have outdone yourself. |
From: red13n | #108 That's funny, this comes off more as "THE MODS DIDN'T TAKE MY SIDE I'LL RALLY THE USERS WAAH" --- HAHAHAHAHA - Me |
red
is not "any normal user." If a moderator has an issue with a
moderation, they're expected to dispute it, as any other user would.
However, if they are dissatisfied with that, they are expected to
discuss it privately on Moderator Discussion. Totally an abuse of power btw. I'm not saying red shouldn't be allowed to complain about moderations publicly, but if he's going to do that when a) he's not even in the right and b) he hasn't even exhausted all of his dispute options before doing so, that's just being unreasonable. Public opinion and the opinion of the guy that the post was about seem to disagree with A. B. Is just an abuse of power, besides why should he have to wait until it has all been resolved to complain? Also this does seem very board invasionish. --- May George Feeny have mercy upon you and give you peace. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Rita |
From: CoolCly | Posted: 12/29/2009 12:37:00 AM | #177 Yeah. I guarantee you nobody here thought less of the moderation system because of this topic. Maybe we already thought low of it because of silly moderations, but this topic didn't make our views worse. It was just a funny and ironic topic. You guys, however, are causing me to hate the moderators and all that they stand for ! Oh yes, considering I've only been KoSed multiple times and have been one of the most outspoken critics of the moderation system and the moderators for the past decade obviously means I am a "kiss ass". So you are one of us, brother! Where is your fighting spirit?! Take up the cause once more! If red13n was in the right, then I would be defending him. However I also agree that regardless, this situation should have been handled in a more private manner. >_> --- ~TRC (04:40:21 PM) brmownzj00rass: i hope you can smoke or drunk that ram |
SmartMuffin, too, stands out as one of the stars of this topic. I'm not saying red shouldn't be allowed to complain about moderations publicly, but if he's going to do that when a) he's not even in the right and b) he hasn't even exhausted all of his dispute options before doing so, that's just being unreasonable. What's unreasonable is treating this topic as a serious issue. Imagine the following topic, if you will. Topic title: So I got a speeding ticket for going 60 on 50mph road no one else was on. Message: I've gotta go to court for it next week. Great, just great. If we use your logic, he's being unreasonable for making this topic because he hasn't contended the ticket in court yet. But why? It's an innocent topic from a guy looking to share a story of his misfortune with his friends. --- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! |
so... have any of the mods explained yet how this isn't a board invasion? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hcoz20.png |
"Rallying
the users" in this case meaning "complain to friends" since it isn't
like stirring up the users that already get punished for ridiculous
moderations can do anything, even about far more ridiculous
moderations. It isn't like we can overthrow the monarchy. |
Tagging this gold --- http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1362/retail.jpg |
"Rallying
the users" in this case meaning "complain to friends" since it isn't
like stirring up the users that already get punished for ridiculous
moderations can do anything, even about far more ridiculous
moderations. It isn't like we can overthrow the monarchy. We'll dress our wounds and gouge evil from it's shell! |
The
topic having been made in the first place is all that's necessary for
any significant attention to be paid to it outside of Board 8. To
believe otherwise is to be ignorant of how certain users operate here.
There are users who admittedly hate the mod staff as a whole. These
users WILL go to Hellhole or other boards to bring up supposed cases of
mod incompetence, some valid, some bogus. These users WILL find out
about a topic like this; they always do. --- Xboxlover2<51>(36)-New York City's #1 GameFAQs User It's like I'm having a barbecue in my pants! |
From: captainmurphy72 | #183 THE THIRD WAVE |
What
the mods here seem to fail to grasp is that giving up after the first
contest and complaining about it publicly is PART of the normal
recourse of moderations. Anyone who has been here for more than a year
knows that you're more likely to be struck by lightning than getting a
moderation overturned past the first contest. Public venting at least
makes you feel better as you can share a chuckle over "yeah the mods
sure are unfair" stories with your friends. So, your position is that because he's a moderator, Red SHOULDN'T take the normal recourse. That he should work privately through "special channels" in order to receive special privileged. And you're worried that HE'S fueling the fires of mod-hate? Really? --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/barkley.jpg |
Lame
moderation. It's not insulting unless you're extremely thin-skinned,
and mod standards shouldn't be designed around the extremely
thin-skinned. Also, I don't think mods need to have any particular loyalty to the system just because if they're a part of it; if they think a moderation is unfair then they should be able to talk about it just like anyone else, provided they're not divulging confidential information. --- is there a hero somewhere, someone who appears and saves the day someone who holds out a hand and turns back time |
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Look,
I've stated this before, there was no "fire to fuel". I made this post
about an unfortunate situation that came up involving me and a
moderation contest, the users here laughed at my misfortune. There was
no "Drama" intended, no one exploded and started crying foul. The topic
was dying and no one had posted in it for over 2 hours. It was a good
laugh and totally forgotten. If I started crying "OMG THE MODS ARE HORRIBLE WTF" then, you have an issue. I didnt. I still feel the moderation was questionable, but I dont wish to pursue it further(I've always run under the "if the admin says its fair, suck it up" mentality, in most cases anyways). I'm not looking to rally the users or whatever, I'm looking to engage, with the people who I generally consider my friends on GFAQs, about my situation. Most of them, as you can see from this topic, go and laugh at my misfortunate. A few agree with my assessment, but for the most part see it as an "oh well". No one really has their opinion on the mods or anything swayed by this topic(Most people on board 8 generally assume im the one responsible for their moderations anyways. Totally untrue, but its what they assume). I -know- how the users here are going to respond to it. I -know- its not going to be a big issue. The only people who have chosen to make this a "bigger" issue are the ones that decided to revive it in the first place and go spamming the link around. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. |
One
of the mod-hating board wandering Hellhole regulars who pop into Board
8 and the other large social boards every now and then will. That's my
issue with this topic. Then that one guy gets modded for causing an uproar. My issue with the president giving speeches is that, while most of the people there won't mind him, one of the schizophrenic lunatics on the street might bring a gun in and shoot him. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to give speeches. --- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! |
Don't mind Ryoko. When people tell her she was amazing that's usually what they mean. this line is obviously straight out of a notepad document don't mind smuffin, he's just bitter because he will never know the touch of a woman that he didn't pay for FORTUNATELY RYOKOS WIT IS STANDING GUARD --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG |
From: Random_Guy_42 | #192 Sorry, I genuinely lurk B8. :P Though I can see where you're coming from. --- HAHAHAHAHA - Me |
From: Xboxlover2 | #191 OK, so? If they are valid, that's cool. If they are bogus, then that's cool too. I don't understand what the problem here is. Any time you have any sore of oversight where certain people enforce a ruleset over a much larger group of people there are going to be times where someone think something unfair happens. I think the moderation staff as a whole needs to grow a bit of a thick skin if it really bothers them that much. --- Dragon Quest V is awesome Sir Chris |
