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Time for a new list: my top 222 games (with short writeups).

ZFS | Posted 5/16/2008 7:13:25 PM | message detail | #401
Expected Brawl to be higher !

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trannyscience | Posted 5/16/2008 7:15:00 PM | message detail | #402
best game ever
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stevieyamaneko | Posted 5/16/2008 10:40:01 PM | message detail | #403
1. Zero Mission
2. Xenogears
3. F-Zero GX
4. Final Fantasy
5. Shadow Hearts
6. Super Metroid
7. Dragon Quest Monster
8. Portrait of Ruin
9. Shadow Hearts: Covenant
10. Final Fantasy 4
11. Chrono Trigger

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transience | Posted 5/17/2008 4:19:38 AM | message detail | #404
11. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin (DS)

So good. POR removes the sealing gimmick of Dawn of Sorrow and adds a second character, giving the game a bit more variety. It also has a castle that I like a ton more due to its use of individual levels - this is the only Castlevania game that I don't get lost in. The whip returns, cool boss fights and a reasonable difficulty - Portrait is a fantastic game. Too bad it's got a couple of stupid flaws like game-crashing glitches, a stupid boss that charms you to death and that ridiculous cast time on Sanctuary. Other than that, awesome game. Richter mode is killer, too.

10. Chrono Trigger (SNES)

Just.. charming as hell. CT lacks an interesting story or characters, and the gameplay is pretty simplistic, but it's just fun. The game moves and is very addicting for an RPG. Good soundtrack and locations. It's got absolutely great balance between characters, and I like the bosses, they're pretty memorable. (especially you golem twins argh) I always find myself replaying this game. I didn't really get into it until two or three years ago, but now I just play it all the time. weird.

9. Dragon Warrior Monsters (GBC)

Most addicting game ever. I once lost an entire weekend because I couldn't stop playing this game. I think I even cancelled plans with friends so I could play this dumbass thing. I love the complexity of the breeding system, and I can spend an hour doing nothing but stare at charts and figure out what I want to do and how to do it. DWM is a little outdated, especially compared to its sequels, but this one is the only one that feels like a complete game. I could spend hundreds of hours just making monsters and enjoy every second of it.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/17/2008 4:21:23 AM | message detail | #405
Still pretty close.
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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/17/2008 4:35:29 AM | message detail | #406
So tranny, I bought this new game yesterday called "F-Zero GX". Perhaps you've heard of it.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 5/17/2008 4:36:52 AM | message detail | #407
I think I cancelled christmas because I was playing Dragon Warrior monsters one year or something.
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transience | Posted 5/17/2008 4:37:48 AM | message detail | #408
yeah I saw you compare it to Pokemon and I considered blowing up some chipmunks in rage
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Wiipus | Posted 5/17/2008 6:32:35 AM | message detail | #409
Woo PoR!!
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transience | Posted 5/18/2008 3:45:48 AM | message detail | #410
8. Shadow Hearts (PS2)

At first glance, Shadow Hearts is a pretty average game - it's low-budget, the dialogue's a bit awkward at first, and the CG/voice acting is downright atrocious (though in a good way). Gameplay has some interesting quirks, but it's all pretty standard fare. SH1 is kind of a 16-bit throwback in the 128-bit era.

Where Shadow Hearts is amazing is in its presentation, atmosphere and sound. I don't know if you can call it "survival horror", but it's definitely dark and can make you jump on rare occasion. Its settings are fantastic, and there's a grimy style to it that endears itself bigtime. While the dialogue/translation is a bit awkward at times, the main two characters and main villain are as good as it gets. The dungeons are my favourite in any RPG, period - short and sweet. The game flies and, most importantly, is very fun on replays. Shadow Hearts is a pretty damn amazing game despite its low-budget constraints.

7. Shadow Hearts 2 (PS2)

SH2 has the single greatest collection of scenes in any game. There's a good dozen scenes that are just awesome, and the game is flat out hilarious. SH2 walks the thin line of having a good story while still being funny as hell. The production values are miles above the original, and while it's still got its share of issues on the technical end - occasional voice acting issues, "jaggies", and two dungeons that would be better off dropped - the good points are amazing. The ending is fantastic. The battle system is a bit deeper and not as repetitive. The difficulty is pathetic and the crest system isn't the greatest, but the game is so damn fun that you don't even mind. I'd call this the best RPG in my collection -- though not my favourite -- for its combination of great story, great scenes, good characters and quality gameplay.

6. F-Zero GX (Gamecube)

I believe this is the greatest game ever made. The only thing keeping it from my top spot is that I can't play it endlessly like I can the games above it.

F-Zero GX has it all - fantastic speed, high difficulty that's fun to play with, control that's responsive as hell, music that's fun to race with. The difficulty can really mess with you at times, but it keeps you coming back for more. There's tons of custom cars you can play with, racing staff ghosts on time trial is great, and then of course, story mode. Oh god, story mode.

http://www.somethingawful.com/automaticturban/junk/fzero.mp3

what an mp3 -- and it's so true
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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/18/2008 3:59:23 AM | message detail | #411
top 5 time
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ZFS | Posted 5/18/2008 4:13:16 AM | message detail | #412
suck it down kleenex

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transience | Posted 5/18/2008 4:17:37 AM | message detail | #413
here's HM's predix

[20:20] <zfs> xenogears, zero mission, super metroid, final fantasy 1, NEWCOMER brawl

4/5 is pretty good if the fifth isn't way off
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/18/2008 12:24:51 PM | message detail | #414
Whoa, shake up.

I blame FF4DS.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 5/18/2008 1:01:25 PM | message detail | #415
just fyi the boat in sh2 was fine and anyone who complains about it just isn't very good at basic problem solving. :(
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transience | Posted 5/18/2008 1:04:50 PM | message detail | #416
it's pretty doable, just really dumb. :)
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linkhatesganon | Posted 5/18/2008 1:07:14 PM | message detail | #417
Grrrrr better that FF4 is in the top 5, as it would redeem most of the list <.<
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ZFS | Posted 5/18/2008 5:16:45 PM | message detail | #418
just fyi the boat in sh2 was fine

no need to try to defend the bad aspects of sh2

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/18/2008 5:37:05 PM | message detail | #419
Puzzles in RPGs are good.

So long as there aren't random battles in the area. Developers should really realize this. >_<
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Seginustemple | Posted 5/18/2008 5:44:17 PM | message detail | #420
Wait, no Starcraft? NOOOOOOOOOOO

Tranny, I should brawl you some time >_>
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transience | Posted 5/18/2008 8:14:07 PM | message detail | #421
I don't really care to Brawl board 8ers - I tend to like playing people that I know personally, or people that I talk to a ton that I would enjoy screwing about with. I'd never join a Brawl league here or whatever.

you'd probably kill me anyway
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Seginustemple | Posted 5/18/2008 8:17:57 PM | message detail | #422
you'd probably kill me anyway

You're god damn right I would
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transience | Posted 5/18/2008 8:19:02 PM | message detail | #423
and yeah I've never played Starcraft

or anything by Blizzard besides Rock n Roll Racing
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Aecioo | Posted 5/18/2008 8:20:39 PM | message detail | #424
I think Starcraft is in a lot of peoples top 20.

At least, outside of B8 where most peoples top 20 are just various RPGs.
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RayDyn | Posted 5/18/2008 8:24:13 PM | message detail | #425
shloop... shloop... splat!

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transience | Posted 5/18/2008 8:36:19 PM | message detail | #426
Starcraft is hella popular here, yo. moreso than in "real life", anyway.
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neonreaper777 | Posted 5/18/2008 10:49:31 PM | message detail | #427
huh, I thought everyone saying Brawl to be high was a joke..
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transience | Posted 5/19/2008 1:26:04 AM | message detail | #428
best game ever
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transience | Posted 5/19/2008 1:48:42 AM | message detail | #429
5. Final Fantasy 4 (lots at this point)

One of the more influential RPGs of all time, FF4 was the first to feature ATB, the first FF to have real characters, and had some of the first -- and most memorable -- deaths in RPGs. Being influential isn't why FF4 is so good though. FF4 is great because it's got a quick, effective battle system with some memorable characters, and because it's so damn climactic all the time. Every five minutes, something is happening. Characters are coming and going, saving you and dying, and the plot is really enjoyable. It's got some of the best boss fights ever. And it's so damn memorable and replayable.

Then there's the DS version, which adds a stiff difficulty level. It's a bit much at first, but after that it's like a ramped up version of a classic that's intense and exciting for nearly every battle. New boss patterns, on-screen maps and harder difficulty turn FF4 from a great game to an amazing one.

4. Final Fantasy (NES/WSC)

This is the only RPG that I can play, beat, then start over and play again. The class system hooks me, and the challenge keeps me playing again. FF1 is overly simple and I completely understand why other people don't get into it, but I love doing solo games. I love trying to beat it on low levels. I love frustrating myself with this charming game. I bet a lot of others think it's annoying and too grind-y for it to be any fun, but not me.

3. Xenogears (PS1)

When I was in high school, I kinda stopped playing video games. I had friends and sports and girls and god knows what else to occupy my time, and I just didn't like where games were going. I didn't like the 64 at all, 3d was becoming popular and I just couldn't keep playing Street Fighter 2 forever, so I stopped paying attention.

Xenogears is what actually got me back into games. I bought a PS1 for it. For its time, it was pretty shocking, and I marathoned this 60 hour game in a week. I was absolutely hooked on it. I remember a friend calling that I hadn't talked to in months that I really wanted to see, but I said I had to go because I had to play more Xenogears. As such, I think higher of Xenogears than anything else, and it's more nostalgic to me than games that are 10-15 years older. It's kind of like my FF7, if you will.

Xenogears certainly has its flaws - s l o w . t e x t . s p e e d, a sorta annoying encounter rate, questionable dungeon design at times, disc 2 - but I absolutely love everything else about it. I even excuse the flaws because they don't really bother me - except for the text speed on disc 2, because that's just insult to injury. I love the on-foot battle system. I love the characters more than any other game. I love the storyline, of course. It has my favourite soundtrack in all of video games. The whole game is just magical to me.
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RayDyn | Posted 5/19/2008 1:49:43 AM | message detail | #430
AW yeah, my favorite FF at number 5.

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Lopen | Posted 5/19/2008 6:31:01 AM | message detail | #431
Awesome list, man. I just read all the write-ups for the games I knew. Some awesome picks on here of games I'd all but forgotten like MULE. That Zelda 2 glitch run-through is ridiculous. Good stuff.

Reading all the write-ups at once is bad for feedback... I will say that I like almost every game on this list I've played... though the ordering is iffy!

And uh... to mnm... I think he said it... when he claimed that AoS had the best story of a Castlevania game... I've gotta say SotN trumps it hardcore. Richter is amazing in the game. I freaked out so bad.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 5/19/2008 7:39:41 AM | message detail | #432
From transience Posted 5/18/2008 8:36:19 PM #426
Starcraft is hella popular here, yo. moreso than in "real life", anyway.

You're wrong here. <_<
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Wiipus | Posted 5/19/2008 7:42:15 AM | message detail | #433
Metroid Fanboy
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MnMZero | Posted 5/19/2008 8:45:35 AM | message detail | #434
And uh... to mnm... I think he said it... when he claimed that AoS had the best story of a Castlevania game... I've gotta say SotN trumps it hardcore. Richter is amazing in the game. I freaked out so bad.

"Die monster! You don't belong in this world!"

A++ material right there
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Kaxon | Posted 5/19/2008 12:29:55 PM | message detail | #435
So, FF4DS is good huh? Guess I need to get it... I hadn't because it just didn't look good to me, but if tranny recommends it...

Starcraft is hella popular here, yo. moreso than in "real life", anyway.

You might be underestimating how popular Starcraft is in real life. I was talking to some random dude a couple weeks ago, and the first thing he asked after video games came up was "do you play Starcraft?" There are just tons of random people out there who will tell you they used to play Starcraft all the time if you bring it up.
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transience | Posted 5/19/2008 1:49:53 PM | message detail | #436
hm, I can admit to being wrong. I can't say I know anyone that actually plays Starcraft today. but there are a lot of people on here - like you - that claim Starcraft as their favourite game. it's not like it's unpopular here.
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transience | Posted 5/19/2008 2:23:52 PM | message detail | #437
2. Metroid: Zero Mission (GBA)

The absolute zenith of gameplay. Zero Mission is responsive, easy to play, and I cannot think of a single thing you could change to improve this game from the gameplay perspective. The only thing it's missing is a difficulty level to match the gameplay, but I find that speed running creates a level of artificial difficulty that makes up for it. Bomb jumping is awesome, wall jumping is awesome, low% is pretty fun (and not too difficult) - this is a game I used to play endlessly because of its gameplay perfection.

Unfortunately, I've played this game so hard that there's nothing left to do. But it's still freaking amazing.

1. Super Metroid (SNES)

Definitely not perfect with that questionable control setup, and with all the improvements that the GBA games made this is fairly tough to play. It takes me a few minutes until I reorient myself to Super Metroid controls, and I still haven't figured out how to effectively shinespark.

Super Metroid has a lot of things that push it over Zero Mission though. The level design is just a lot more fun. Nothing in games is more fun to me than walljumping in the huge rooms of Maridia. The music is a lot better and more atmospheric. The difficulty is better, and the fight with Ridley is still one of the better moments in video games. Despite having played Super Metroid more than Zero Mission, I haven't really mastered it thanks to the controls, so I'm always trying to get better at it. There's lots of "advanced techniques" -- aka glitches -- that are tough to master but fun to play with. They also add a ton of sequence breaking if you want to go that route. There's a lot of stuff to play with in Super Metroid and it's timeless because of it.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 5/19/2008 2:27:29 PM | message detail | #438
wrong
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Wiipus | Posted 5/19/2008 2:39:02 PM | message detail | #439
I figured it was the other way, but it doesn't matter to me, great top 2.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 5/19/2008 4:26:47 PM | message detail | #440
At least you got 1st and 2nd in the right order, though Zero Mission isn't even top 100 material IMO
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Lady Ashe | Posted 5/19/2008 4:31:22 PM | message detail | #441
From linkhatesganon Posted 5/19/2008 4:26:47 PM #440
At least you got 1st and 2nd in the right order, though Zero Mission isn't even top 100 material IMO

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Wiipus | Posted 5/19/2008 4:52:26 PM | message detail | #442
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RayDyn | Posted 5/19/2008 4:58:54 PM | message detail | #443
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Kaxon | Posted 5/19/2008 5:43:09 PM | message detail | #444
Great list, especially the top 5. Nintendo so needs to make another 2d Metroid - hopefully combining the awesome controls and gameplay of ZM with the level design, music, and atmosphere of SM.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/19/2008 5:45:07 PM | message detail | #445
...what
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RPG 9/10 Not exactly RPG, let's just say kind of like graphics.
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ZFS | Posted 5/19/2008 7:10:32 PM | message detail | #446
hopefully combining the awesome controls and gameplay of ZM with the level design, music, and atmosphere of SM.

This would be good.

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trannyscience | Posted 5/19/2008 7:12:15 PM | message detail | #447
the Prime series is way too popular for something like this to ever happen. the reason they still make 2d Castlevanias is because they're so much more popular than the 3d ones.

speaking of which, come on new Castlevania DS, you've been going in some amazing directions while on your last 2d legs and I can't wait to see what new things you'll try next
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RayDyn | Posted 5/19/2008 7:18:29 PM | message detail | #448
I'm seriously hoping nothing happens to stop Metroid SR388 from being completed.

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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/19/2008 7:20:55 PM | message detail | #449
Your #1 is completely correct and sets this as the best list of the year.
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Kaxon | Posted 5/19/2008 8:55:59 PM | message detail | #450
the Prime series is way too popular for something like this to ever happen. the reason they still make 2d Castlevanias is because they're so much more popular than the 3d ones.

But it's not like they're restricted to one or the other. A 2d handheld game costs way less to develop than a big 3d game like the Primes.
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