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transience's top 50 games with writeups (guaranteed to be done in a week)

ZFS | Posted 5/14/2007 11:25:25 PM | message detail | #201
You better believe it. That guy killed the Midgar Zolom on a stake. That's instant respect points.

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therealmnm | Posted 5/14/2007 11:27:43 PM | message detail | #202
*slowly raises arms up in the air*

I will become one with the planet.

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SA2Tails | Posted 5/14/2007 11:28:04 PM | message detail | #203
I really like that upgrade in Arkanoid (clones) that splits the ball into 3. There's one in particular that can split a ball that is already split, so you can end up with, like, 27 balls on the screen at once.
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ZFS | Posted 5/14/2007 11:30:55 PM | message detail | #204
You know you like those shoulder pads.

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trannyscience | Posted 5/14/2007 11:38:47 PM | message detail | #205
my problem with the split-into-3 ball is that you can't get any more powerups.. at least, that's how it is in the NES version.
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trannyscience | Posted 5/14/2007 11:49:16 PM | message detail | #206
one more before I leave for the day!

#34: The Legend of Zelda
Year: 1987
System: NES
Developer: Nintendo
Game Rankings Score: 79.0% (GBA version -- haha, no way this gets lower than a 90 back in the day)


three major reasons why the original Zelda is my favourite in the series:

- it's so damn nonlinear. some other Zelda games play with nonlinearity, but only the original Zelda is truly nonlinear. it isn't just the fact that you can do the dungeons in nearly any order, either - the actual dungeons themselves can be done numerous ways. in later Zeldas (at least the ones I've played), there's really only one way to finish a dungeon. you need to get the big key, get the treasure and use the treasure on the boss. in Zelda 1 you can skip the treasure of the dungeon and still clear the dungeon most of the time. you can get several keys from a single dungeon and not use them if you wish. I often get to the end of the game with ~8 or 9 keys still available. add to it that you can completely skip the treasures of the 2nd, 6th, 7th and 8th dungeons and you've got a game that you can beat in all kinds of ways.

- there's a focus on combat instead of puzzle-solving. I don't mind puzzles or anything, but I prefer combat a lot more. my favourite part of Zelda 1 are the red and blue draknut dudes, or whatever their names are. the guys you have to hit from the side or behind. I love taking on an entire room of those guys. I love it when I feel like I'm in danger, and Zelda 1 keeps me on edge in ways that other Zelda games can't. the combat is fairly shallow, but it's still fun. the wizard guys on level 6 are also a fun time, though I hate those blue bastards. plus, if I want a real challenge, I'll play the second quest.

- it's short and sweet. I lose interest in Zelda games because they're just too long. you can play through Zelda 1 in a couple of days, or if you know what you're doing, a couple of hours. short games also encourage me to replay it more often because I don't need to invest as much time. I'm pretty sure I've beaten the original Zelda more than every other Zelda combined. I thank its length for that.

so yeah, overall, Zelda 1 is by far my favourite in the series.

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Kaxon | Posted 5/15/2007 12:20:32 AM | message detail | #207
I've been waiting for this list! Awesome stuff so far, especially Arkanoid, MM3, and Zelda. I'm amazed you can actually beat the NES version of Arkanoid - I can't even come close to beating the arcade version, and the control is a lot worse in the NES version.

Mega Man 3 is inferior to 2 in every way except for one: the slide.

Awwww no, you are so wrong. Rush, Protoman, the MM2 bosses, the level design... I'd say MM3 is better than MM2 in every way except for the weapons. Of course both of them are great.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 12:22:09 AM | message detail | #208
well, there's a code that lets you continue! hahaha, beating it without continuing.

requires a second controller though, so as far as I know, I can't do it on my GBA/PSP.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 12:42:32 AM | message detail | #209
oh, and I'll give MM3 Protoman. love his whistle, though the fights against him are fairly boring.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 5/15/2007 12:47:31 AM | message detail | #210
Rush, Protoman, the MM2 bosses, the level design... I'd say MM3 is better than MM2 in every way except for the weapons. Of course both of them are great.

The "Items" were cooler and more useful than Rush, and Protoman was a tool in Mega Man 3. And those doppelgangers hardly count as the "MM2 Bosses."

Another reason MM2 is better: the music.

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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/15/2007 12:48:25 AM | message detail | #211
That's so true about the original Legend of Zelda. I remember being so glad I had 4 or 5 keys saved up when I hit the final dungeon the first time. I was able to make it through there without too much suffering.

The only problem with the non-linearity is that it can be a bit hard to find things in the game. Almost like Nintendo wanted people to buy Nintendo Power and use the map inside!
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 1:00:00 AM | message detail | #212
the thing I like about nonlinear NES games is that the worlds are fairly limited, so it's not absolutely huge like later games. the world just isn't all that huge. if it was much bigger it would bother me, but Z1 is pretty small. the only dungeon I ever have a problem finding is world 2, because it's just in such a random spot and I forget what it is.
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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/15/2007 1:06:49 AM | message detail | #213
I know the exact one you're talking about, because I can never find that either. Most are easy to find though. I was just poking at your FF7 comment about getting people to buy strategy guides.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/15/2007 1:13:42 AM | message detail | #214
No LttP?

Failure.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 3:05:49 AM | message detail | #215
there is no such failure on this here list, buddy.
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Heroic Palmer | Posted 5/15/2007 3:10:11 AM | message detail | #216
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HeroicElectrode | Posted 5/15/2007 3:19:24 AM | message detail | #217
i didnt really like Zelda 1, which is weird because i have this affinity for older games. maybe it's just too old for me or something; i dunno.

but anyway, pretty solid stuff so far
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ZFS | Posted 5/15/2007 3:49:48 AM | message detail | #218
LoZ is pretty good. Don't think it's the best in the series, but it's up there. Nice game to bust out from time to time.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/15/2007 4:58:24 AM | message detail | #219
so yeah, overall, Zelda 1 is by far my favourite in the series.

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Kaxon | Posted 5/15/2007 5:20:18 AM | message detail | #220
the thing I like about nonlinear NES games is that the worlds are fairly limited, so it's not absolutely huge like later games. the world just isn't all that huge. if it was much bigger it would bother me, but Z1 is pretty small. the only dungeon I ever have a problem finding is world 2, because it's just in such a random spot and I forget what it is.

Yeah, Zelda wasn't too overwhelming... I was able to make it though when I was a kid just by learning a few secrets from friends at school. Metroid on the other hand I could never get through - it was too easy to get lost.

Another reason MM2 is better: the music.

Eh... it's close, damn close. 3 has a better intro, 2 has better Wily stage music. It's hard to compare the robot master music, but they're both really good.

Anyone remember what won SSG's best Mega Man music contest that happened a while ago?
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Billy Blaze | Posted 5/15/2007 5:22:50 AM | message detail | #221
Yea, Z1 is the only Zelda I've actually beaten...but for some reason, I enjoy playing lttp's first couple of hours over and over more than it. Maybe I'll like it less when I actually finish a playthrough, who knows.

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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 5:34:22 AM | message detail | #222
totally agree on LTTP's beginning being pretty good. my problem is that I always lose interest by the end, and I struggle to rank a game that I finish maybe 20% of the time I start it.

it's a good game for sure, just not a fave of mine. Z1, on the other hand, is a game I can play to completion repeatedly.
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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/15/2007 5:36:48 AM | message detail | #223
Anyone remember what won SSG's best Mega Man music contest that happened a while ago?

I would say Snake Man's theme, but then I remember that was the result at another forum I go to. But it still is likely that it is Snake Man's theme, because a lot of people love that song.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 5:40:06 AM | message detail | #224
I always see that one MM2 Wily song get a lot of love here. can't say I ever paid attention to the contest and don't even recall seeing it though.
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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/15/2007 5:44:12 AM | message detail | #225
Dr. Wily's first stage music is to Mega Man as One Winged Angel is to Final Fantasy. Everyone and their grandma will say it's the best song from the series, though for 70% of those people, it's the only song they can really even think of. And both series have plenty of other songs on the same level of quality, but people act like there's no comparison at all.

Also, I wish I owned a copy of Legend of Zelda. All my friends had it when I was a kid, so I always borrowed it when I wanted to play. I feel kind of embarrassed not having it now when I have all those other NES games.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 5:46:09 AM | message detail | #226
Zelda 1 was the game to have. it was gold, man! every kid had to have one of those just to show off their sexy gold cartridge.
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Heroic Palmer | Posted 5/15/2007 5:47:20 AM | message detail | #227
MM2 Wily Music is awesome. I never understood why One Winged Angel got so much love. Its ok, nothing special imho.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 5:48:27 AM | message detail | #228
and as for MM music, I always found it enjoyable but never thought of it as a great soundtrack.. I never even considered it until I saw people praising the hell out of it here. now I actually try to listen to it to see where the hype is coming from, and it's decent, but not amazing.

my best friend heard Snake Man's stage theme once and was like "whoa, it's Mortal Kombat music!" ever since then, that's all I can picture when it starts up -- some dude just going MORTTALLLLLLL KOMBATTTTTTTT. augh.
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Billy Blaze | Posted 5/15/2007 5:48:30 AM | message detail | #229
I tend to judge games only the sections I play of them. And since I have a problem finishing games, that could mean anything from 50% of the game to right before the final boss battle. If the first half is amazing, I'm actually more likely never to continue and just keep going back to enjoy that first half over and over and stay oblivious to how the game continues/ends. So my rating of games is a bit skewed to my personal weird play-style. =P

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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/15/2007 5:49:28 AM | message detail | #230
I know! What the hell was I thinking as a kid, asking for games like Super Mario Bros. 3 and Double Dragon 2 and Castlevania 3 and Tetris and

WAIT A MINUTE

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY COPY OF WWF WRESTLEMANIA STEEL CAGE CHALLENGE!? I know the game sucks, but why is it not with my NES collection?
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Billy Blaze | Posted 5/15/2007 5:51:30 AM | message detail | #231
I still can't believe I don't have my gold Zelda anymore. What was the my brother thinking...seriously. ;_;

At least I have an uncle who own it who I might eventually steal from. >_>

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TheKnightOfNee | Posted 5/15/2007 5:51:37 AM | message detail | #232
I hate how some people will call any techno rave style song "the Mortal Kombat song". Even when they sound nothing alike.

And Mega Man 2 music has been remixed a buttload of times, just like Chrono Trigger music, so people will claim they love the originals after hearing all sorts of good remixes, even if they were indifferent at first. Yay for sheep people.
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LiselTestify | Posted 5/15/2007 5:51:54 AM | message detail | #233
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Tumbletldr | Posted 5/15/2007 6:12:57 AM | message detail | #234
Sounds to me like your biggest complaint with D/P is that everything's so slow. Two suggestions: turn off the attack animations or get another game. The other Pokémons are all way faster.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/15/2007 7:52:04 AM | message detail | #235
Eh, I dunno. Zelda 1 was the only one I never finished in the series. It's sitting on my Wii, maybe this summer. I just don't find it as much fun as others. And I'm not sure where you guys are coming from as for the whole liking the beginning of LttP. Sure, the light world is nice and everything, but the dark worls is what makes that game.

As for Mega Man music. I never started listening to it until people around here started raving about it. A few tracks from MM2 are pretty good, same for MM3. Nothing else I've heard really wows me like Chrono Cross or any of the other critically acclaimed OSTs. But if I recall correctly, that Wily Stage 1 was the highest rated song in the VG music topic when I put it on hold. It was something ridiculous like 9.5 with 45 votes.
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Whit3_Rabb1t | Posted 5/15/2007 7:56:57 AM | message detail | #236
Bah with your lack of OoT, it was epic at its time and it still holds up well with the games of today. Never has a game had such a perfect blend of graphics, gameplay and music to make one of the most atmospheric games of all time.

...Oh well.
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/15/2007 8:31:17 AM | message detail | #237
Never has a game had such a perfect blend of graphics, gameplay and music to make one of the most atmospheric games of all time.

Y'know, I'm only a few hours into Twilight Princess... but dude, Twilight Princess.
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Twilight Swift | Posted 5/15/2007 8:32:31 AM | message detail | #238
KH, you finally got TP? Nice.
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therealmnm | Posted 5/15/2007 8:50:44 AM | message detail | #239
MM2 had kickass tracks outside of Wily Stage 1 (which isn't even my favorite).

Metal Man and Quick Man both have awesome stage music. Wood Man is pretty cool too, as is Heat Man. Crash Man's theme is catchy. The only theme in the game that I'm not really fond of is Air Man's. Sounded a bit too cartoonish...

But yeah, I really like the Techno flavor of Metal Man's music, and the Latin flavor of Quick Man's. I've heard remixes in both styles. Good stuff.
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Mr Lasastryke | Posted 5/15/2007 8:53:40 AM | message detail | #240
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Not Dave | Posted 5/15/2007 12:20:27 PM | message detail | #241
man i have to play more god of war 2. my brother has it and i have the week off... hmm.

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Lucid Faia | Posted 5/15/2007 1:09:15 PM | message detail | #242
If you ask me, Bubble Man's theme was the best track in MM2.

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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 5/15/2007 1:12:39 PM | message detail | #243
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Kaxon | Posted 5/15/2007 1:37:23 PM | message detail | #244
Dr. Wily's first stage music is to Mega Man as One Winged Angel is to Final Fantasy.

...except for the fact that MM2 Wily 1 deserves the praise that it gets. Yeah, there are other MM songs that are on the same level, but you can't tell me that song isn't awesome. You can't compare it to OWA, where there are tons of better songs from the same game.

Bah with your lack of OoT, it was epic at its time and it still holds up well with the games of today. Never has a game had such a perfect blend of graphics, gameplay and music to make one of the most atmospheric games of all time.

I've never thought of OOT as especially atmospheric. I guess I'd probably give it an 8/10 in that department - pretty atmospheric, but a game like Silent Hill absolutely blows it away in that category. I think that kind of sums up my problem with OOT - it's pretty good at everything, but it's not great at anything.

MM2 had kickass tracks outside of Wily Stage 1 (which isn't even my favorite).

Metal Man and Quick Man both have awesome stage music. Wood Man is pretty cool too, as is Heat Man. Crash Man's theme is catchy. The only theme in the game that I'm not really fond of is Air Man's.


So does MM3. I absolutely love Gemini Man and Top Man's music. Shadow Man and Snake Man are great too, but I pretty much love all of them.
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Kaxon | Posted 5/15/2007 1:49:56 PM | message detail | #245
I would say Snake Man's theme, but then I remember that was the result at another forum I go to. But it still is likely that it is Snake Man's theme, because a lot of people love that song.

I don't think Snake Man won, although I do remember it going far, along with Gemini Man. I kind of think MM2 Wily 1 lost unexpectedly early, like the 3rd or 4th round. I think the final four might have included Metal Man, Gemini Man, Snake Man, and Bubble Man, but I can't remember for sure.
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therealmnm | Posted 5/15/2007 1:53:55 PM | message detail | #246
So does MM3. I absolutely love Gemini Man and Top Man's music. Shadow Man and Snake Man are great too, but I pretty much love all of them.

Didn't like MM3's soundtrack as much. Gemini Man's theme was cool, and I'm a HUGE fan of Shadow Man's (my favorite of the game), but not too many others. I guess Spark Man was okay... Didn't really like Snake Man's theme much. Needle Man's grew on me simply because of THE REGGIELUTION!

Sorry tranny, this topic is now about Mega Man music.
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Kaxon | Posted 5/15/2007 2:24:34 PM | message detail | #247
Now I want to go play Mega Man games instead of working.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 2:59:21 PM | message detail | #248
augh Zelda fans attack

Eh, I dunno. Zelda 1 was the only one I never finished in the series. It's sitting on my Wii, maybe this summer. I just don't find it as much fun as others. And I'm not sure where you guys are coming from as for the whole liking the beginning of LttP. Sure, the light world is nice and everything, but the dark worls is what makes that game.


eh. it's not the very beginning of the game that I think is really good, it's the second and third light world dungeons. hell, the game is boring until you can move quickly using those dash boots thingers. those are great. I really enjoyed the level design of the second dungeon, the two different parts. I also enjoyed going dark to light world in the third. I thought both of those were really fun.

as for the dark world, I like it at first. I don't care for that one forest dungeon (dunno its number -- the one where the Master Sword is in the light world, I think), but the ones up to Blind are pretty good. it's the end of the game that I lose interest in. dungeons 5-7 are completely foreign to my mind right now because I never get that far. I just lose interest. can't tell you why, I just do. LTTP is a pretty good game and just missed my top 50 so it's not like I hate it or anything (think you know this though!), it's just not as playable for me as Z1.

Bah with your lack of OoT, it was epic at its time and it still holds up well with the games of today. Never has a game had such a perfect blend of graphics, gameplay and music to make one of the most atmospheric games of all time.

get ready for it -- here it comes! -- I've never played Ocarina of Time. my best friend at the time gave up on his 64 by the time 1998 came around and I never really cared to try and find one to play it. I'm sure it's atmospheric and all that, and I've watched entire speed runs of the game to see what I am missing, so I know pretty well what happens in it. but nope, never played it.

I have, on the other hand, played Wind Waker to completion, and I didn't enjoy it at all. I've heard people say that while the sailing sucked, the dungeons were still fun and that the combat was some of the best in the Zelda games. well, I didn't really fun the combat fun at all and I really didn't like the exploration (in fact, I never got a single optional heart, and I never had a problem only having the base amount). I'm sure Ocarina is a lot better, but I can't imagine it is different enough to warrant me falling in love with it. I've watched a lot of Twilight Princess at a friend's house over the last six months and I seem to be enjoying the dungeons more than I did in WW, but overall I just don't find the game/series interesting right now. granted, watching and playing are two totally different things, but I really have no interest in playing it.

as for Mega Man music, seriously, I can't even picture a single theme outside of the opening theme from MM2 in my head. enjoyable ingame, but damned if I remember what any of it sounds like.

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therealmnm | Posted 5/15/2007 3:03:57 PM | message detail | #249
as for the dark world, I like it at first. I don't care for that one forest dungeon (dunno its number -- the one where the Master Sword is in the light world, I think), but the ones up to Blind are pretty good. it's the end of the game that I lose interest in. dungeons 5-7 are completely foreign to my mind right now because I never get that far. I just lose interest. can't tell you why, I just do. LTTP is a pretty good game and just missed my top 50 so it's not like I hate it or anything (think you know this though!), it's just not as playable for me as Z1.

Haw haw, tranny probably gets lost in the Ice Dungeon and turns off the game in frustration.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2007 3:04:46 PM | message detail | #250
haw haw, I've beaten it multiple times!
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